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From: Aberdeen, MD
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L HO I-6, 703 Injectors, Brown Dog Super Engine Mounts
exactly. Especially in structural applications a one pass weld is the preferred route as it results in the strongest connection. The less heat you put into the base metal the better. The weld will be stronger and there will be less distortion.
There is absolutely no reason that anyone who knows what they're doing cannot achieve an adequate throat size in a single pass fillet weld. A single pass with adequate filler, adequate heat, and adequate penetration is as good as the weld will EVER get. Additional layers will only be detrimental to the weld integrity/hardness, especially if the throat isn't adequate to begin with.
There is absolutely no reason that anyone who knows what they're doing cannot achieve an adequate throat size in a single pass fillet weld. A single pass with adequate filler, adequate heat, and adequate penetration is as good as the weld will EVER get. Additional layers will only be detrimental to the weld integrity/hardness, especially if the throat isn't adequate to begin with.
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But when welding such different thickness metals wouldn't you want to weld the seem fairly cold then do a hot pass to the thick metal and another fairly cold pass to the thin metal? Wouldn't that be stronger? I'm just saying with one pass you would have to weld too cool to get good penetration on the thick metal or hot to the point you blow through the thin metal. I thought triple pass would work better in this situation. Of course I'm not a professional welder.
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From: Jville, NC / Troy, NC
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Re read what I said I used a lower power smaller wire on sheet metal higher power thinker wire on the steel when welding my brackets to the body I used a mix of both of them depending on the placement.
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From: Casper Wyoming
Year: 1989
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thanks for the tips. not used to welding on this thin stuff. the stuff i weld day in and day out is all 1/2" or thicker with either 1/16 or 3/32 wire. the machine i have here at the house is a 110v Miller. i will go get some smaller wire when the time comes. thanks again
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Year: 1994
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Hello,
I used 0.030" on a 220V machine.
Setting 2 and 50 wire speed with C25 gas
Favour the thicker metal and let the heat draw the sheetmetal.
You will get the hang of it.
Nitro
I used 0.030" on a 220V machine.
Setting 2 and 50 wire speed with C25 gas
Favour the thicker metal and let the heat draw the sheetmetal.
You will get the hang of it.
Nitro
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From: Here, no there, I don't know.
Year: 1994
Model: Cherokee
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Sorry !
No updates, been enjoying summer with my family.
I am going wheeling in end of Oct. So I will have to get it done before then.
Nitro Out.
No updates, been enjoying summer with my family.
I am going wheeling in end of Oct. So I will have to get it done before then.
Nitro Out.
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From: New Hampshire
Year: 1997
Model: Grand Cherokee
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Nice work man. Just followed up on your progress. Lookin good. Hope the summer with the fam is goin good. Definatly having good summer weather. Looking forward to seein more progress when time allows
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From: Here, no there, I don't know.
Year: 1994
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Engine: 4.0
Off to MotoGP in Indy this Sunday.
So nothing this weekend.
Nitro
PS: Front end still in pieces, bad hubs and shafts and tie rods.
So nothing this weekend.
Nitro
PS: Front end still in pieces, bad hubs and shafts and tie rods.


