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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 08:40 PM
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i like it. you did a good, clean job . i think i might do something like this some time after i get a new rear axle and some lockers. keep us updated on how the bushings hold up and how it handles on the trails. i like the color too.
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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ZachsXJ
sounds like they were just trying to sell a couple extra bushings.
if the bushings break down ruffstuffspecialties has heims that will fit right into my crossmember i have a bailout
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Old Jan 3, 2011 | 01:44 PM
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quick report: it rides WAYYYYY BETTER then it did before and seems to steer better (i think due to the axle being back where it belongs) it feels tight and doesn't wander and no death wobble..but today is day one
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 03:31 AM
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Did you do a radius arm?
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 06:47 AM
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no stock configuration 4 bar..waiting on joints for the uppers
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 10:08 AM
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How are you mounting the UCAs? I haven't seen anything talking about that.
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ZachsXJ

The advised way is rubber bushings on the axle ends and then some nice beefy joints for the axle end. I say beefy because if you do the typical and simple y-link long arm setup, those TWO joints basically hold the ENTIRE front suspension in place. Definitely not a place to cheap out and save a few bucks.
Ya makes no sense... everyones confused reading this now Zack... lol
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 12:51 PM
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uppers are coming soon...gonna make mounts on the inside of the rails and use the stock upper axle mounts i'm waiting on the joints from ruffstuff
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by alloutperform
uppers are coming soon...gonna make mounts on the inside of the rails and use the stock upper axle mounts i'm waiting on the joints from ruffstuff
if you do that you have to stiffen the unibody a fair amount as it is very thin. 3x3x3 u channel or box(with one side cut off) works nearly perfect. DO NOT WELD THE MOUNTS DIRECTLY TO THE UNIBODY. just saying.

lookes good tho!
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 96_xj
if you do that you have to stiffen the unibody a fair amount as it is very thin. 3x3x3 u channel or box(with one side cut off) works nearly perfect. DO NOT WELD THE MOUNTS DIRECTLY TO THE UNIBODY. just saying.

lookes good tho!

thanks! yeah i had planned on plating the unibody....but i like the channel option better i'm also jonesin to do the rear but thats got to wait
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by huntingman2706217
Ya makes no sense... everyones confused reading this now Zack... lol
how do you figure? I was saying if he did the typical Y-link long-arm setup that the best way to build it would be with JJ/Heims at the mounting end, and rubbing bushings at the axle end.

and I was saying that he should get some high quality joints, because in a long-arm setup those two mounting points hold the front axle in place.
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ZachsXJ

how do you figure? I was saying if he did the typical Y-link long-arm setup that the best way to build it would be with JJ/Heims at the mounting end, and rubbing bushings at the axle end.

and I was saying that he should get some high quality joints, because in a long-arm setup those two mounting points hold the front axle in place.
Read what u wrote again... said rubber at the axle end and rubber at the axle end... lol
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by huntingman2706217
Read what u wrote again... said rubber at the axle end and rubber at the axle end... lol
oops, I'll fix it
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 03:52 PM
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i think the crossmember is a very simple design really... maybe another piece of steel up the inside of the frame rail so when you bolt it on through the frame it pinches the frame... make sense? also you lost 1/4in yes... or a 1 1/4in technically... but you also lost it all the way across... the stock setup is thick only in the middle...

I have this exact same size of tube in the shop actually that ive been trying to figure out what to do with... now i know... my question is do you think its possible to run it with only the one piece... not stacked... or will it pick the tranny up higher then stock? i wonder if cutting the center of it down to about an inch thick would kill the strength VS. the two inches or so it is... this would allow the tranny to sit down in it alittle more and still raise the crossmember off the ground... what ya think?
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 05:30 PM
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nice work, your cross member came out a lot cleaner than mine did
i hope you put a piece of plate on both sides of the frame rails where your 2 bolts on each side grab. you wouldnt want to tighten the bolt down and crush the frame rail on the inner side.
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