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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Slick761
Turbos have come a very long way. Really no downside esp. With an auto. Gas mileage is way better then super charger too... plus they sound sweet.
Agree on the gas mileage for turbos....however no turbo will ever sound better than a supercharger in my opinion.

Point of forced induction is you want power when you push the pedal......turbo's must spool boost....supercharger's are automatically there.

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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 10:47 PM
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New hybrid turbos have damn near no lag. and unless you're going with a big roots style charger you dont hear much noise. The newer twin screws just don't make that much noise and centrifugal charges are pretty quiet too.... the twin screw of the mustang cobra can barely be heard over the exhaust.
Old Oct 2, 2011 | 12:49 AM
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The spool with a turbo is kind of cool, at least on a street car. Sleeper. See a car take off slow, think nothing, then hear that jet sound and its gone.
Old Oct 2, 2011 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Slick761
New hybrid turbos have damn near no lag. and unless you're going with a big roots style charger you dont hear much noise. The newer twin screws just don't make that much noise and centrifugal charges are pretty quiet too.... the twin screw of the mustang cobra can barely be heard over the exhaust.
lol, unless you're driving it.

the stock supercharges on the cobras are very easy to hear.


ive never driven anything with a quiet supercharger. roots, centrifugal, twin screw all all pretty easy to hear.

in my mustang, and even with my old GTP with a little m90 you never had any issues hearing the superchargers inside and out.

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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by N20jeep

lol, unless you're driving it.

the stock supercharges on the cobras are very easy to hear.

ive never driven anything with a quiet supercharger. roots, centrifugal, twin screw all all pretty easy to hear.

in my mustang, and even with my old GTP with a little m90 you never had any issues hearing the superchargers inside and out.
Exactly, they all make noise
Old Oct 2, 2011 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Slick761
New hybrid turbos have damn near no lag. and unless you're going with a big roots style charger you dont hear much noise. The newer twin screws just don't make that much noise and centrifugal charges are pretty quiet too.... the twin screw of the mustang cobra can barely be heard over the exhaust.
The problem with turbos is no matter how good they are, they still have to spool up to push boost, and its darn near impossible to get usable boost out of any turbo below a certain rpm.

For a pushrod style engine like ours that only spins out to 5,000 rpm a supercharger is ideal because you can "tune"(change the pulley size) to make a significant amount of boost right off idle, while not over exerting and damaging the super charger at redline. It'd be very difficult to get that from a typical turbo setup because there's just not enough exhaust flow to make usable boost off idle and still be able to run all the way through the powerband.

That being said, if you got ambitious you could always build a compound turbo setup.

For a Jeep though, a super charger is much simpler/easier to set up, and get tuned right compared to a compound turbo. Plus if you wheel your Jeep and there's ever any chance of being in deep water or having water splash up in the engine bay, the last thing you want is to dunk/soak a turbo in water.

Just my .02
Old Oct 2, 2011 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by ZachsXJ

The problem with turbos is no matter how good they are, they still have to spool up to push boost, and its darn near impossible to get usable boost out of any turbo below a certain rpm.

For a pushrod style engine like ours that only spins out to 5,000 rpm a supercharger is ideal because you can "tune"(change the pulley size) to make a significant amount of boost right off idle, while not over exerting and damaging the super charger at redline. It'd be very difficult to get that from a typical turbo setup because there's just not enough exhaust flow to make usable boost off idle and still be able to run all the way through the powerband.

That being said, if you got ambitious you could always build a compound turbo setup.

For a Jeep though, a super charger is much simpler/easier to set up, and get tuned right compared to a compound turbo. Plus if you wheel your Jeep and there's ever any chance of being in deep water or having water splash up in the engine bay, the last thing you want is to dunk/soak a turbo in water.

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Hmm, well said.
Old Oct 2, 2011 | 11:45 AM
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Sorry, always wanted to use that!
Ok not really anymore.

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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 11:53 AM
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Yeah ... it's going sideways, isn't it?
Old Oct 2, 2011 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by _StationWagon_
Yeah ... it's going sideways, isn't it?
Does it count? Or did the last paragraph of the last post bring it back on topic?

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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ZachsXJ

The problem with turbos is no matter how good they are, they still have to spool up to push boost, and its darn near impossible to get usable boost out of any turbo below a certain rpm.

For a pushrod style engine like ours that only spins out to 5,000 rpm a supercharger is ideal because you can "tune"(change the pulley size) to make a significant amount of boost right off idle, while not over exerting and damaging the super charger at redline. It'd be very difficult to get that from a typical turbo setup because there's just not enough exhaust flow to make usable boost off idle and still be able to run all the way through the powerband.

That being said, if you got ambitious you could always build a compound turbo setup.

For a Jeep though, a super charger is much simpler/easier to set up, and get tuned right compared to a compound turbo. Plus if you wheel your Jeep and there's ever any chance of being in deep water or having water splash up in the engine bay, the last thing you want is to dunk/soak a turbo in water.

Just my .02
Agreed!!
Old Oct 2, 2011 | 01:17 PM
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Oooh didn't think about submersion. That would hurt! Although I'd I put that much $$ into my engine id probably stay away from creeks and small rivers anyhow unless I knew exactly how deep they were.
Old Oct 2, 2011 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 96xjclassic

Inside or outside?
Outside about to redo headliner tho sorry no pics yet camera is full of mud...
Old Oct 2, 2011 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Gstomp

http://www.tptools.com/p/2600,233_U-...Liner-Kit.html

buy two kits, 200$ and it'll cover your whole jeep, and then some. I did almost my whole jeep with 3 bottles
Tractor supply $44 a gallon if you spray it two gallons would probably get it done...
Old Oct 2, 2011 | 07:42 PM
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Any ideas on where I can get all new xj jeep emblems about to strip mine for rhino liner



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