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Old May 8, 2012 | 02:27 PM
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So ive come to a cross road and would really like some fellow members input.
my jeep has currently a dana 30 front and 35 rear, i got lucky and found a 8.8 lsd geared at 4.10 , which is the gearing i wanted to move to anyhow. im currently geared at 3.55 , should i keep the stock dana 30 in front , get it regeared along with axle tube seals and a over haul kit or go to a high pinon 30 from a Cherokee classic and do all of the same things? or be patient and pay to have a 44 shortened? im running 33's atm ,thanks!!! oh and heres the swap kit with truss i picked for the rear

http://artecindustries.3dcartstores....-98_p_280.html
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Old May 8, 2012 | 02:46 PM
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D30, it'll probably be cheaper and if you break shafts it'll be a lot easier to find spares than a shortened d44
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Old May 8, 2012 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by OttawaXJ
D30, it'll probably be cheaper and if you break shafts it'll be a lot easier to find spares than a shortened d44
ok, but stick with the zj low pinon or go to the xj high pinon , ive heard its stronger
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Old May 8, 2012 | 03:20 PM
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The high pinion is stronger, also better for clearance and DS angles.

If you can find one cheap, then go that route.
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Old May 8, 2012 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by zed johnson
ok, but stick with the zj low pinon or go to the xj high pinon , ive heard its stronger
All the tj come with the same LP as the grand does and they all for just fine. I have one in the wifes TJ and 35's and my grand has 32's and LP with the 5.9 and it works fine. If you take your time looking around you may be able to find a cheap HP d30.
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Old May 8, 2012 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee
The high pinion is stronger, also better for clearance and DS angles.

If you can find one cheap, then go that route.
ill pretty much have to go to a junkyard no matter what for the hp.
so im looking at $135-200 for the axle (depending on the yard) and then the money to regear and over haul , whats the cheapest way to do that?
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Old May 8, 2012 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by MUDRUNNER AZ
All the tj come with the same LP as the grand does and they all for just fine. I have one in the wifes TJ and 35's and my grand has 32's and LP with the 5.9 and it works fine. If you take your time looking around you may be able to find a cheap HP d30.
thats true i know my friend has a 03 tj with a lp d30 and regeared to 4.56 on 35's, but he's swapping to a high pinon today as we speak lol
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Old May 8, 2012 | 04:43 PM
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all axles at my local upull are 89$ from the Dana 35 to the Dana 60s, doesnt matter.

Might be an idea for you.
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Old May 8, 2012 | 04:52 PM
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I'm at the same exact place on my xj except that I've, already got a low pinion d30 and my 8.8 is gonna have 4.88s and a locker in it.
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Old May 8, 2012 | 05:27 PM
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Yeah, I just recently got a Ford 8.8 and started prepping it for swapping it. Build thread here http://www.lsjc.org/board/showthread...8-8-Swap-on-XJ

Same specs as you listed, 4.10 and LSD.

Luckily, I'm already geared 4.10s though and have the HP30.

I've read the HP30 is the stronger too (has to do with weight/pressure of gear sitting on top of the other I guess. Pinion is the smaller so having that on top is better). So yeah if you can find one that is a good jump.
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Originally Posted by bothellbikes
I'm at the same exact place on my xj except that I've, already got a low pinion d30 and my 8.8 is gonna have 4.88s and a locker in it.
You have a LP D30 i thought that xj did not have a LP till 99 or so. My 92 is HP and the 90 donor is Hp.
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Originally Posted by zed johnson
ill pretty much have to go to a junkyard no matter what for the hp.
so im looking at $135-200 for the axle (depending on the yard) and then the money to regear and over haul , whats the cheapest way to do that?
Too bad you are so far away i have 1 HP d30 under a donor xj and i will be taking the one out of the 92 here in the next couple weeks too.
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Old May 8, 2012 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ManiacXJ
Yeah, I just recently got a Ford 8.8 and started prepping it for swapping it. Build thread here http://www.lsjc.org/board/showthread...8-8-Swap-on-XJ

Same specs as you listed, 4.10 and LSD.

Luckily, I'm already geared 4.10s though and have the HP30.

I've read the HP30 is the stronger too (has to do with weight/pressure of gear sitting on top of the other I guess. Pinion is the smaller so having that on top is better). So yeah if you can find one that is a good jump.
i didnt know thats the reason it's a stronger axle it's good to know, ill have to follow your build!
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Old May 8, 2012 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by MUDRUNNER AZ
Too bad you are so far away i have 1 HP d30 under a donor xj and i will be taking the one out of the 92 here in the next couple weeks too.
ya right, i want one thats already geared to 4.10 from a cherokee classic but that gear ratio with no vacuum disconnect is difficult to find near me.
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Old May 8, 2012 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by OttawaXJ
all axles at my local upull are 89$ from the Dana 35 to the Dana 60s, doesnt matter.

Might be an idea for you.
same near me but theres a core charge for 35 bucks....like anyones gonna bring there axle in for that much lol
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