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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by MASCOTT
Thanks,I'll give him a call. I'm a bit discouraged today because calling around and speaking to various mechanics they are all saying the same thing. "That it will cost me much money in labor to pull apart and find problem" Called Adams Jeep there head guy said compression test will not work and I can pay him $104 to do a diagnosis, but I'd be wasting my money.Maybe I should just be focusing on finding an engine to drop in the baby and keep on moving. I'll make afew more calls to the local shops.
i really hate how most shops nowadays are all about replacing stuff and the easiest way out that will make them the most money. It's ridiculous that they are telling you that testing to determine the ACTUAL cause is not cost effective. To take a valve cover off is nothing, and a compression test is a extremely simple test to perform. They don't need to "pull it apart", they just need to run the tests - that's it. And a compression test most certainly will work.

$100-200 in diagnosis to pinpoint the issue is a lot better than spending 2-3 grand to replace the engine blindly.
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by MASCOTT
Thanks,I'll give him a call. I'm a bit discouraged today because calling around and speaking to various mechanics they are all saying the same thing. "That it will cost me much money in labor to pull apart and find problem" Called Adams Jeep there head guy said compression test will not work and I can pay him $104 to do a diagnosis, but I'd be wasting my money.Maybe I should just be focusing on finding an engine to drop in the baby and keep on moving. I'll make afew more calls to the local shops.
Might wanna check this out
http://baltimore.craigslist.org/ptd/2836733917.html
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by dukie564

i really hate how most shops nowadays are all about replacing stuff and the easiest way out that will make them the most money. It's ridiculous that they are telling you that testing to determine the ACTUAL cause is not cost effective. To take a valve cover off is nothing, and a compression test is a extremely simple test to perform. They don't need to "pull it apart", they just need to run the tests - that's it. And a compression test most certainly will work.

$100-200 in diagnosis to pinpoint the issue is a lot better than spending 2-3 grand to replace the engine blindly.
Dukie, cracked head or spun bearing??? I'm assuming you peeked under the hood???
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 11:44 AM
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I also have a great mechanic who works out of a shop in Greenbelt I could refer you to. I'm sure he'd have no problem doing some diag on it for a reasonable price.
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by pulltabmike
Dukie, cracked head or spun bearing??? I'm assuming you peeked under the hood???
did more than peek

https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/200...-knock-123979/
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 11:56 AM
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So what else you guys into?

Here are a couple of my other toys



how in gods name did i miss this...

Originally Posted by pulltabmike
Due to a certain individual on this forum, I am really leary about doing this.
I cannot head down that way for a week, but would be willing to do a compression/ leakdown test for you. If you get the oil and pan gasket I can look at the lower end also
i couldnt find the one where it is a smiley hitting another smiley with a stick... :P
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 12:01 PM
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and another thing, anyone have a IR temp gun i can borrow for like 5 minutes? and for anyone who is interested, i have an extra elec. aux fan. thinking about karma'ing it out.
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jakbob
how in gods name did i miss this...
LOL, the top rifle is a friend of mine's. It's a basic Bushmaster. My baby is below it. It's a Fulton Armory FAR-15, it's got a full Daniel Defense 12" floating forgrip/rail system, Magpul Mbus flip up iron sights, Magpul ACS stock, an EOTech XPS2 Holographic and a 20" stainless steel bull barrel. It's pretty freaking sweet

My boat is a '89 18' BassTracker, that picture was before I wet sanded/buffed/polished the metal flake finish and reupholsted the interior and painted the engine cover. It's 110hp so she scoots along pretty good. I plan on fishing quite a few tourney's on the Potomac this coming spring and summer. Anyone interested in fishing with me as a non boater let me know. Tourneys are usually every other saturday
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by dukie564
!!
What kind of antifreeze consumption are you talking about (forgive me I'm glanced at this on my droid)? May be leaking like mine does, will show you next sat. If knock is in upper end possibly wrist pin/ cracked skirt??? I would still lean towards dropping pan and checking oil pump screen, and visually checking each rod and piston. If head was cracked before no telling what the internals may look like... can check tranny while underneath.
If that checks out then onto the head...
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by pulltabmike
!!
What kind of antifreeze consumption are you talking about (forgive me I'm glanced at this on my droid)? May be leaking like mine does, will show you next sat. If knock is in upper end possibly wrist pin/ cracked skirt??? I would still lean towards dropping pan and checking oil pump screen, and visually checking each rod and piston. If head was cracked before no telling what the internals may look like... can check tranny while underneath.
If that checks out then onto the head...
burning definitely. No leaks anywhere - i scoured that engine bay. No evidence of it in the oil either.

I'm thinking cracked head (on bottom), and broken skirt on #3 (also has misfire code on same cylinder).
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mikefrost
LOL, the top rifle is a friend of mine's. It's a basic Bushmaster. My baby is below it. It's a Fulton Armory FAR-15, it's got a full Daniel Defense 12" floating forgrip/rail system, Magpul Mbus flip up iron sights, Magpul ACS stock, an EOTech XPS2 Holographic and a 20" stainless steel bull barrel. It's pretty freaking sweet
im kinda doing the same on my romy... not much now, but i put rails up front, accidently got a tapco folder (brings the suck... getting an ACE side folding stock next week, mod it to fold to the left). im also thinking about fabricating the bolt carrier with a galil style handle, that way, when its time to pull back after a fresh mag, my right hand doesnt need to leave the trigger.

some pics...
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 12:40 PM
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Drivers seat




Passenger seat (no tears)


Rear Seat


Are those TILTING seats, like from a 2 door? I need some.
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 12:41 PM
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Thanks for all the Birthday wishes gents. Just woke up from my Birthday nap...

Sometime unemployment has it's benefits.
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by dukie564

burning definitely. No leaks anywhere - i scoured that engine bay. No evidence of it in the oil either.

I'm thinking cracked head (on bottom), and broken skirt on #3 (also has misfire code on same cylinder).
Makes sense, the oil pressure at idle is a little on the low side though.
Did you happen to check the heater core???
If it ate a skirt looks like a bearing or 2 may need replacing.
This is jmo though
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by pulltabmike
Makes sense, the oil pressure at idle is a little on the low side though.
Did you happen to check the heater core???
If it ate a skirt looks like a bearing or 2 may need replacing.
This is jmo though
oil pressure is fine - spec is no less than 13psi at hot idle. 20 is where mine sits as well.

i assume heater core is fine, went for a ride along - no coolant smell at all, no wet floor, good heat.
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