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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by jeeperzcreeperz
Dose anyone have an extra 12v air pump for on board air that they want to sell
I have a Super SICK Basket ball pump! but its not for sale!
Old Mar 4, 2012 | 10:51 PM
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Just another day in paradise. I sprayed my jeep off while I spray cleaned my bbq'r. Now only 1 of 3 burner's work.
Old Mar 4, 2012 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by fathan16
so do you or anyone else know if i change the axle shafts and get a locker i can go from a 30 spline to a 33 spline without any issues?
Yes sire, I believe If you buy the locker and the shafts the rest is "bolt together"

I have been thinking of going with this for mine...
Old Mar 4, 2012 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Gorillaxj
I have a Super SICK Basket ball pump! but its not for sale!
Thanks but no thanks lmao
Old Mar 4, 2012 | 10:57 PM
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So then I asume toms bronco isnt going to be leafs in the fron then
Old Mar 4, 2012 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by fathan16
well it's not in great shape, so i was planning on getting new bearings, seals, shafts, ring and pinion, and locker... a locker will replace the carrier right? ive never heard but from the pictures it looks like it. i was thinkin about a spartan, but i haven't really looked that far into it yet
Well, the carrier Can be replaced with a locker, But it needs to be the Full bodied locker and not a Lunchbox locker. If you go 33 spline I think Detroit and ARB are your only options, and they will replace the carrier. However, with Lunch box lockers (aussie. spartan, lockeright ect) they just replace the spider gears, I would recommend either (obviously there are other options and combos just the ones I have thought about doing...)

Option A - 33 spline Alloys, detroit/arb and call it a day (pretty bullet proof for a D44)
Option B - 30 spline alloys, A Detroit/ARB/Grizzly (for full bodied lockers=Stronger) which will not require a new carrier for the ring and pinion
Option C - (C is for Cheap like me lol) I used stock shafts, a Spartan, and reused my stock Carrier (3.73 and lower) with a THICK ring gear to take up the difference in offset... this leaves the shafts/carrier as the weak link though...

I am in the same situation with mine, I will end up with 30 spline alloys and a Detroit. the 33 spline just doesn't seam worth the money in the long run. Also If you snap a shaft (mine is a DD) on the trail you can't just get a replacement from a JY or parts store to drive home on.... any who just food for thought....

I am a huge Timken Bearing fan. I got all my parts from 6 states as that's what they carry. as well as seals and other misc parts.... (I am sure online is cheaper unless you get a discount there)Almost any online parts stored have the D44 stuff.

Its also a good time to go disk if you want to (doing the ZJ or F8.8 swap)

Also Rubicon ring gears and diff's use a bigger ring gear bolt size. something to keep in mind if you use anything made for a Rubicon lol I had to drill out my carrier and use the big bolts on mine because they sent me a rubicon ring gear and I didn't want to wait to send it back and have a new one shipped out lol

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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Talon
Just another day in paradise. I sprayed my jeep off while I spray cleaned my bbq'r. Now only 1 of 3 burner's work.
Nice don't you love how that happens! Life man... LIfe... lol
Old Mar 4, 2012 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Gorillaxj
Nice don't you love how that happens! Life man... LIfe... lol
It sucked, I was going to cook steak. So I cooked the steak inside on a gridle. Didn't taste the same, but it was still good. Now I need a new bbq'r or hope mine will start working. Lol
Old Mar 4, 2012 | 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Talon
It sucked, I was going to cook steak. So I cooked the steak inside on a gridle. Didn't taste the same, but it was still good.
yeah it really doesn't taste the same does it lol I love a good grilled slab of meat! (no homo lol)
Old Mar 4, 2012 | 11:08 PM
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Oh well, I guess I can settle with a new one. if I have to.
Old Mar 4, 2012 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Gorillaxj
Well, the carrier Can be replaced with a locker, But it needs to be the Full bodied locker and not a Lunchbox locker. If you go 33 spline I think Detroit and ARB are your only options, and they will replace the carrier. However, with Lunch box lockers (aussie. spartan, lockeright ect) they just replace the spider gears, I would recommend either (obviously there are other options and combos just the ones I have thought about doing...)

Option A - 33 spline Alloys, detroit/arb and call it a day (pretty bullet proof for a D44)
Option B - 30 spline alloys, A Detroit/ARB/Grizzly (for full bodied lockers=Stronger) which will not require a new carrier for the ring and pinion
Option C - (C is for Cheap like me lol) I used stock shafts, a Spartan, and reused my stock Carrier (3.73 and lower) with a THICK ring gear to take up the difference in offset... this leaves the shafts/carrier as the weak link though...

I am in the same situation with mine, I will end up with 30 spline alloys and a Detroit. the 33 spline just doesn't seam worth the money in the long run. Also If you snap a shaft (mine is a DD) on the trail you can't just get a replacement from a JY or parts store to drive home on.... any who just food for thought....

I am a huge Timken Bearing fan. I got all my parts from 6 states as that's what they carry. as well as seals and other misc parts....

Almost any online parts stored have the D44 stuff.

Its also a good time to go disk if you want to (doing the ZJ or F8.8 swap)

Also Rubicon ring gears and diff's use a bigger ring gear bolt size. something to keep in mind if you use anything made for a Rubicon lol I had to drill out my carrier and use the big bolts on mine because they sent me a rubicon ring gear and I didn't want to wait to send it back and have a new one shipped out lol
gotcha, i think i understand the full bodied locker vs. the lunch box one now. so i'd need a carrier for the lower gears.. i dont want the carrier to be the weak link
Old Mar 4, 2012 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Gorillaxj
(no homo lol)
oh my god I think this made my night!
Old Mar 4, 2012 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Gorillaxj
I assume you mean the Moab's?


Yes and NO, The 16" versions are 5x4.5 and will bolt up(but require spacers with wider tires then stock, from what I have read)

The 17" ones are 5x5.5 and will not work with out adapters...

I have read that some 16" ahd 5x5.5, and some 17" had 5x4.5 but I have never seen them so I don't buy it lol, I would measure before you buy thought!
you don't need a spacer but it helps so you can turn without major rubbing, and yes the TJ and TJU moabs are 5x4.5 and a 16" wheel but the JK and JKU moabs are a 17" wheel and 5x5 not 5x5.5 they are the same as the WK XK and pretty much all the newer jeeps out there that decided to use an oddball pattern.
Old Mar 4, 2012 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by fathan16
gotcha, i think i understand the full bodied locker vs. the lunch box one now. so i'd need a carrier for the lower gears.. i dont want the carrier to be the weak link
No you don't lol but they are expensive, and Carriers aren't weak, but it would become the weak link.... Alot of people Don't have any issues with Lunchbox lockers. I am not trying to scare you away from them! It jsut comes down to How bullet proof you want it and how much $$ your willing to throw at it to get there...

just to give you a visual...

A full bodied Locker


Lunchbox locker in a stock carrier
Old Mar 4, 2012 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jmaxj
you don't need a spacer but it helps so you can turn without major rubbing, and yes the TJ and TJU moabs are 5x4.5 and a 16" wheel but the JK and JKU moabs are a 17" wheel and 5x5 not 5x5.5 they are the same as the WK XK and pretty much all the newer jeeps out there that decided to use an oddball pattern.
aw, well ty for the schooling!



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