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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Gorillaxj
NICE! Pics or it didn't happen! lol
I didnt take pics ha, I let off the brakes and slammed it into 2nd and floored it to pull me out of the slide!

Originally Posted by john78
zj was that u joint 4900 what joint did you use for the frame side when you changed them out, did you ever have a problem with you upper control bushing on the axle, its kind of a chinsey set up it looks like
I used 3/4" rod ends. I didnt have a bushing at the axle end, it was a krawler joint.

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What do you guys think,yah? nah?

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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by FloydXJ
So Tristin, do you just need a different track bar for some reason, or need it relocated like I do? With it set up like it is, I have pretty minimal bump steer, however my roll-steer is pretty unacceptable. If can't get it relocated before Thursday, I might throw the old steering back on for the trip to Moab
My track bar was raised when I swapped my axle, as I knew I was at least going cross over.

I need a new bar, When I swapped the axle I didn't know for sure what setup I needed/wanted to run or how low my pitman arm was going to drop it (waggy arm) So for the time being we Cut my RE bar and sleeved it with some DOM to make it the right length(had a moab trip a week later). So I need 1 solid bar bent up for the proper length and weld in bungs(or have it tapped)

I also want the body side mount to be double shear, not single. And the hiem is wearing out. I also have a bushing on the axle side I want to run hiems on both ends.... Quite the list for track bar which is why I have been putting it off. But this year is not a modify year, its a fix things year lol.

what is your roll steer? dead spot from the bar "rolling" ??

When I had the inverted T i used these to suck up the roll in the tre's from knuckle to knuckle.(seamed pricy for what its is 14$, but they did work)
http://www.jcroffroad.com/mm5/mercha...ct_Code=PLYBSH

I also clocked the rods in opposite directions to keep one rod pushing back, and one rod pushing forward so it couldn't roll as one rod would pin and hold the rods from twisting... ( hopefully that makes sens )

Once I went to Cross over I left the drag link as it was. So I am not sure if this would fix your current issues, but its how mine is... (which is super tight...)

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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by customzj73
I didnt take pics ha, I let off the brakes and slammed it into 2nd and floored it to pull me out of the slide!
haha I figured!
Old Mar 4, 2012 | 02:31 PM
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Has anyone in here used the search function? Every time I use it THIS thread is in the top 6-7 threads that pops up. Most of the time its #1

I guess it does get a lot of attention.... lol
Old Mar 4, 2012 | 02:35 PM
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Ya I'd say its cause over the years we've just about talked over every part of the Cherokee! lol
Old Mar 4, 2012 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by builtnotbought89'
Ya I'd say its cause over the years we've just about talked over every part of the Cherokee! lol
yeah I would agree. 90% of key words are in here lol
Old Mar 4, 2012 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by alwaysxj

He just did the conversion, or replaced his pads?
Replaced his pads
Old Mar 4, 2012 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Gorillaxj
My track bar was raised when I swapped my axle, as I knew I was at least going cross over.

I need a new bar, When I swapped the axle I didn't know for sure what setup I needed/wanted to run or how low my pitman arm was going to drop it (waggy arm) So for the time being we Cut my RE bar and sleeved it with some DOM to make it the right length(had a moab trip a week later). So I need 1 solid bar bent up for the proper length and weld in bungs(or have it tapped)

what is your roll steer? dead spot from the bar "rolling" ??
With the inverted T, I was doing OK. The geometry was not great, but the play in the setup, like the roll in the tie rod, sucked up the difference. While it was not very tight, it was very drivable. I did something similar in the tie rod to reduce the toll in it - I had several washers on each side. The first time, I put enough in there to eliminate the rolling, but found that when I hit bumps, it thumped really hard, to the point that it sounded like something breaking each time. It needed some play to counter the geometry failure. So with the drop bracket and drop XJ pitmn arm my lift came with, it all worked OK.
Now, with the crossover, the "roll steer" is something I barely read about that fits my issue. I do not have a significant issue with bump steer, however when the body rolls on account of turning or hitting a bump on just one side, the jeep steers itself to a pretty hard-to-manage degree.
Old Mar 4, 2012 | 05:21 PM
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Eight hours, four broken upper shock bolts, a siezed leaf bolt that had to be cut out, a whole lotta cursing and TaaDaa! Worked harder today than I ever do at work, but we finally got ShakeandbakeXJ's rig lifted. Thanks to everone who helped him out with getting all the parts, you guys rock!
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 05:33 PM
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Jeff your guys xj's look so clean
Old Mar 4, 2012 | 05:34 PM
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Nice jeff how did those control arms work out
We need to get the sliders done and get him on the trails
Old Mar 4, 2012 | 05:36 PM
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Lookin good man! Now let's get these sliders on!!!
Old Mar 4, 2012 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by jeeperzcreeperz
Nice jeff how did those control arms work out?
Really good once we got them to fit, had to shave about 1/16th off the bushings on the body end and use the porta-power to spread the axle brackets a bit but we got her done (really glad I got my shop priviliges back and had access to all the tools or we'd have been screwed on this one). I remember mine going together much easier.
Old Mar 4, 2012 | 05:46 PM
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Sweet glad they worked it looks really good
Old Mar 4, 2012 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jeeperzcreeperz
Sweet glad they worked it looks really good
Thanks again for giving him the hookup on the arms man!



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