Northern Utah BS thread
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From: Taylorsville, UT
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From: fairview utah
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the heims in my long arms are noise but not to bad it takes a little getting used to the sound, the complaint I have is there is no way to grease them just my two cents
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From: Huricane, Utah
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On the road use Johnny joints
For trail use use heims
J.J are greasable when heims aren't..so my opinion on a daily driver would be the ones that you can service.
For trail use use heims
J.J are greasable when heims aren't..so my opinion on a daily driver would be the ones that you can service.
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Originally Posted by Desert Rat
Hey Derek, allow me to tap a little more of your knowledge (or anyone else who cares to chime in). Hiems vs Johnny joints, opinions?
You planning a joint and a bushing per arm or joints on both ends of the arms?
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From: West Valley
Year: 1998
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I have had a good experience with Johnny Joint longevity. I am still running the same Johnny joints on my LCA's that came with the kit, and they are not noisy or failing yet. Installed October 2007. They are big 'uns. Like 2 1/4 or 2 1/2 inchers I think. Well, that is a big 'un by some people's standards 

Heims will last longer but will make more noise. But for the most part a little white lithium grease and their quiet. If you gonna run a joint like a johnny joint go with a creepers joint. Cheaper, more bore options and easier to rebuild but I think they are an all around better joint. Unless you wanna spend the bucks get the evo joints, it don't get no better. Or summits jimmy joints are the best of both worlds but are pretty pricey also.
You planning a joint and a bushing per arm or joints on both ends of the arms?
You planning a joint and a bushing per arm or joints on both ends of the arms?
Going to check out the Creepers, but as of now I'm thinking Johnny joints at the frame end and bushings on the axle end.
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I would agree with above. IMO If I where going with JJ's I would only buy currie's, for hiems I would only buy Ruff stuff. just my thoughts after some of the BS I've seen and gone threw... Its not worht skimping on joints.
Also Deven said his Creepers didn't alow enough flex and where binding. would have to conferm with him but at one point he said he didn't like them....
I am going to run 1 1/4 hiems for what its worth. andI think you only need to grease a crappy joint
Also Deven said his Creepers didn't alow enough flex and where binding. would have to conferm with him but at one point he said he didn't like them....
I am going to run 1 1/4 hiems for what its worth. andI think you only need to grease a crappy joint
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I would agree with above. IMO If I where going with JJ's I would only buy currie's, for hiems I would only buy Ruff stuff. just my thoughts after some of the BS I've seen and gone threw... Its not worht skimping on joints.
Also Deven said his Creepers didn't alow enough flex and where binding. would have to conferm with him but at one point he said he didn't like them....
I am going to run 1 1/4 hiems for what its worth. andI think you only need to grease a crappy joint
Also Deven said his Creepers didn't alow enough flex and where binding. would have to conferm with him but at one point he said he didn't like them....
I am going to run 1 1/4 hiems for what its worth. andI think you only need to grease a crappy joint

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I would agree with above. IMO If I where going with JJ's I would only buy currie's, for hiems I would only buy Ruff stuff. just my thoughts after some of the BS I've seen and gone threw... Its not worht skimping on joints.
Also Deven said his Creepers didn't alow enough flex and where binding. would have to conferm with him but at one point he said he didn't like them....
I am going to run 1 1/4 hiems for what its worth. andI think you only need to grease a crappy joint
Also Deven said his Creepers didn't alow enough flex and where binding. would have to conferm with him but at one point he said he didn't like them....
I am going to run 1 1/4 hiems for what its worth. andI think you only need to grease a crappy joint

And yeah, the Curries are the joints I'm thinking. I want to say those are what Clayton sets their long arms up with, and Jason said he's had no problems.
Last edited by Desert Rat; May 19, 2012 at 05:37 PM.
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Oh yeah! when I got mine for my track-bar I was sold! they are beef! So thats why I got them for my tie-rod. and one day... yes one day.. I will run them for my front suspension.
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another interesting point...
JJ - rebuild kits are about 20$ + or - depending on brand
RE- repalcement joints are 14-40$ brand new.
So long term Cost isn't a problem IMO
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From: provo, utah
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
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Hey guys ..... Ever time I do a u turn I get,a loud squeak / screech noise and the jeep starts to pull away from the direction I am turning well more like a hopi guess what do I need to replace to fix this?


