Marijuana legalized in WA
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Colorado has it too. Everyone I know who smokes pot doesn't even care that its legal now, I just see it as good as it will help get potheads out of jail and free up the legal system rather than putting it to waste on minor drug offenders.
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Just a little history on pot and drugs in general......
William Randolph Hearst was the main reason for making pot/hemp illegal. Hearst owned timber land and lots of newspapers, hemp plants cut in on that action by being cheaper, easier to grow, grows faster, easier to process into paper ect...... Hearst spent lots of money to help make pot illegal.
China had the opium wars, granted this is no where near weeds potency class but? In china opium was illegal, the British moved in made it legal (kinda), there were more chinese than british, the brits among other countries started selling opium to the locals.The country got addicted and was kept under control of a government that it didn't want, but was to high to fight back against. Eventually the Chinese sobered up and kicked everyone out, but it took a while.
So in turn, the brits supported their country on the backs of working class people addicted to drugs........... sounds like that could be current events here in a few years if this keeps up with our own government.
William Randolph Hearst was the main reason for making pot/hemp illegal. Hearst owned timber land and lots of newspapers, hemp plants cut in on that action by being cheaper, easier to grow, grows faster, easier to process into paper ect...... Hearst spent lots of money to help make pot illegal.
China had the opium wars, granted this is no where near weeds potency class but? In china opium was illegal, the British moved in made it legal (kinda), there were more chinese than british, the brits among other countries started selling opium to the locals.The country got addicted and was kept under control of a government that it didn't want, but was to high to fight back against. Eventually the Chinese sobered up and kicked everyone out, but it took a while.
So in turn, the brits supported their country on the backs of working class people addicted to drugs........... sounds like that could be current events here in a few years if this keeps up with our own government.
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Originally Posted by highmileage
Just a little history on pot and drugs in general......
William Randolph Hearst was the main reason for making pot/hemp illegal. Hearst owned timber land and lots of newspapers, hemp plants cut in on that action by being cheaper, easier to grow, grows faster, easier to process into paper ect...... Hearst spent lots of money to help make pot illegal.
China had the opium wars, granted this is no where near weeds potency class but? In china opium was illegal, the British moved in made it legal (kinda), there were more chinese than british, the brits among other countries started selling opium to the locals.The country got addicted and was kept under control of a government that it didn't want, but was to high to fight back against. Eventually the Chinese sobered up and kicked everyone out, but it took a while.
So in turn, the brits supported their country on the backs of working class people addicted to drugs........... sounds like that could be current events here in a few years if this keeps up with our own government.
William Randolph Hearst was the main reason for making pot/hemp illegal. Hearst owned timber land and lots of newspapers, hemp plants cut in on that action by being cheaper, easier to grow, grows faster, easier to process into paper ect...... Hearst spent lots of money to help make pot illegal.
China had the opium wars, granted this is no where near weeds potency class but? In china opium was illegal, the British moved in made it legal (kinda), there were more chinese than british, the brits among other countries started selling opium to the locals.The country got addicted and was kept under control of a government that it didn't want, but was to high to fight back against. Eventually the Chinese sobered up and kicked everyone out, but it took a while.
So in turn, the brits supported their country on the backs of working class people addicted to drugs........... sounds like that could be current events here in a few years if this keeps up with our own government.
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It's true.
Now mind you I don't smoke.
I'm happy my state made it legal. Still wont smoke it.
It's funny cause most people don't think about the aspects of getting drug tested at work.
If I did smoke I would be safe at my job since my bosses smoke lol
Buuuuuut I'm guessing 99% of jobs are not like mine.
Now mind you I don't smoke.
I'm happy my state made it legal. Still wont smoke it.
It's funny cause most people don't think about the aspects of getting drug tested at work.
If I did smoke I would be safe at my job since my bosses smoke lol
Buuuuuut I'm guessing 99% of jobs are not like mine.
Still wouldn't touch it if it were legal.
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^^^ that is really the one thing that boggles my mind as to why they havent legalized it. if theres one way to get the US gov's attention its through money. money talks. look at the profits in california and colorado. if you cant convince them otherwise, play their dirty game, $$$$$$$$
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Originally Posted by mrkauffman
^^^ that is really the one thing that boggles my mind as to why they havent legalized it. if theres one way to get the US gov's attention its through money. money talks. look at the profits in california and colorado. if you cant convince them otherwise, play their dirty game, $$$$$$$$
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It's true.
Now mind you I don't smoke.
I'm happy my state made it legal. Still wont smoke it.
It's funny cause most people don't think about the aspects of getting drug tested at work.
If I did smoke I would be safe at my job since my bosses smoke lol
Buuuuuut I'm guessing 99% of jobs are not like mine.
Now mind you I don't smoke.
I'm happy my state made it legal. Still wont smoke it.
It's funny cause most people don't think about the aspects of getting drug tested at work.
If I did smoke I would be safe at my job since my bosses smoke lol
Buuuuuut I'm guessing 99% of jobs are not like mine.
ON TOPIC though, my .02 is that I agree with previous posts re: the unimaginable influx of $$$$ available to states by legaizing/taxing/regulating it. Not to mention the dollars to be saved by not devoting so many man hours to enforcing the current laws.
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Unfortunately, there is more money to be made when it's illegal. Well, at least that's how they see it. In order for the government to legalize it, thy have to say why it was illegal. The lies they have used are kind of hard to just wipe under the rug and say "we were wrong".
Speeding tickets, contrary to popular belief, dont make money for the police. It costs them.
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Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee
From my understanding it costs more to keep folks locked up.
Speeding tickets, contrary to popular belief, dont make money for the police. It costs them.
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i'm sure they would treat hash and oil all in the same manner as pot, considering they are a derivative of the plant.
however, likely in different quantity levels.
at least they do here...
however, likely in different quantity levels.
at least they do here...
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As someone who has seen a small society (around 3-4k people) in which weed is legal, i can personally protest that during the 5 days of the event, there was not a SINGLE fight. Tell me something like that could be possible at something like a beerfest of sorts with the same number of people... Granted, a good 60-70% of the people there were a bunch of nonviolent hippies, the other portion were a bunch of hillbillies from good ol' georgia 
I actually remember back in health class when they would tell us that the smoke from a "marijuana cigarette" is yadda yadda percent more likely to cause cancer than tobacco cigarettes. Now look at today, they give marijuana to cancer patients.. because the exact opposite is true
As a cash crop, marijuana would be sooooo useful. It grows practically anywhere, and the plant in its entirety has more uses than you could imagine. Clothes, as stated earlier paper, and it was actually used to make a pretty strong rope when it was legal.. Stuff also grows like a weed.. no pun intended.
I dont believe in law officers being able to give you a blood test just because you "look high". IMO I believe that will lead to a great misuse of power in law enforcement.
Decriminalized or not, its not going to have much an effect on pot smokers. Nothing much has changed, and as far as im concerned.. I dont believe it should be legalized. I know too many people that, if they could, would stay high the rest of their lives. That would lead to a good bit of our population being completely worthless. And that would be no bueno.
I actually remember back in health class when they would tell us that the smoke from a "marijuana cigarette" is yadda yadda percent more likely to cause cancer than tobacco cigarettes. Now look at today, they give marijuana to cancer patients.. because the exact opposite is true
As a cash crop, marijuana would be sooooo useful. It grows practically anywhere, and the plant in its entirety has more uses than you could imagine. Clothes, as stated earlier paper, and it was actually used to make a pretty strong rope when it was legal.. Stuff also grows like a weed.. no pun intended.
I dont believe in law officers being able to give you a blood test just because you "look high". IMO I believe that will lead to a great misuse of power in law enforcement.
Decriminalized or not, its not going to have much an effect on pot smokers. Nothing much has changed, and as far as im concerned.. I dont believe it should be legalized. I know too many people that, if they could, would stay high the rest of their lives. That would lead to a good bit of our population being completely worthless. And that would be no bueno.
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I don't know anything about the opium, but yes on the hemp war. As well as the timber industry, you had DuPont fighting against it as well. It can put the majority of big business out. Why can't we grow our own tobacco? Because the government protects the big business tobacco companies.
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taken from the inside of a cypress hill cd cover.
note #19
note #19
1.Cannabis and hemp are the same. "Marijuana" was the Mexican name given
to cannabis.
2.Cannabis was first cultivated in China around 4000B.C.
3.The original drafts of the Declaration of Independence were written on
hemp paper.
4.One acre of hemp will produce as much paper as four acres of trees.
5.Hemp is a source of fiber for cloth and cordage for rope.
The hemp fiber is located inside the long stem of the plant.
6.George Washington and Thomas Jefferson grew hemp. Washington, our first
president, declared,"Make the most of the hemp seed. Sow it everywhere."
7.Hemp seed is natures perfect food. The oil from hemp seeds has the highest
percentage of essential fatty acids and the lowest percentage of saturated
fats.
8.Sterilized hemp seeds are often sold a bird food.
9.Rolling papers, like Bambu, are made from hemp paper.
10.In 1937, the Marijuana Tax Stamp Act prohibited the use, sale, and
cultivation of hemp/marijuana in the United States.
11.Five years later, during World War II, the U.S. Department of Agriculture
released the film,"Hemp for Victory," which encouraged American farmers
to grow hemp for the war effort.
12.Hemp is cultivated all over the world. Today, China, Korea,Italy,
Hungary, Russia and France are amoung the countries that grow hemp for
fiber, paper and other products.
13.Cannabis is classified as a schedule 1 drug by the Food and Drug
Administration. Designated as a narcotic, it cannot be prescribed to
patients.
14.In 1988, the DEA's own administrative law judge concluded that
"marijuana is one of the safest, therapeutically active substances
known to man".
15.Cannabis can be used as a medicine to treat nausea, pain and muscle
spasms. It alleviates symptoms of glaucoma, multiple sclerosis,
AIDS, migraines and other debilitating aliments.
16.Thirty-five states have passed legislation permitting medical use of
marijuana.
17.Twelve Americans receive prescribed marijuana from the U.S. government.
18.More than 400,000 Americans are arrested each year on marijuana charges.
19.More than 400,000 Americans die from diseases related to cigarette
smoking each year. More than 150,000 Americans die of alcohol abuse
each year. But in 10,000 years of usage, no one has ever died from
marijuana.
Thank you all very much for taking the time to read this file. I
hope it has given you a new look on the harmless use of marijuana.
Thank You All Again
Dementian
to cannabis.
2.Cannabis was first cultivated in China around 4000B.C.
3.The original drafts of the Declaration of Independence were written on
hemp paper.
4.One acre of hemp will produce as much paper as four acres of trees.
5.Hemp is a source of fiber for cloth and cordage for rope.
The hemp fiber is located inside the long stem of the plant.
6.George Washington and Thomas Jefferson grew hemp. Washington, our first
president, declared,"Make the most of the hemp seed. Sow it everywhere."
7.Hemp seed is natures perfect food. The oil from hemp seeds has the highest
percentage of essential fatty acids and the lowest percentage of saturated
fats.
8.Sterilized hemp seeds are often sold a bird food.
9.Rolling papers, like Bambu, are made from hemp paper.
10.In 1937, the Marijuana Tax Stamp Act prohibited the use, sale, and
cultivation of hemp/marijuana in the United States.
11.Five years later, during World War II, the U.S. Department of Agriculture
released the film,"Hemp for Victory," which encouraged American farmers
to grow hemp for the war effort.
12.Hemp is cultivated all over the world. Today, China, Korea,Italy,
Hungary, Russia and France are amoung the countries that grow hemp for
fiber, paper and other products.
13.Cannabis is classified as a schedule 1 drug by the Food and Drug
Administration. Designated as a narcotic, it cannot be prescribed to
patients.
14.In 1988, the DEA's own administrative law judge concluded that
"marijuana is one of the safest, therapeutically active substances
known to man".
15.Cannabis can be used as a medicine to treat nausea, pain and muscle
spasms. It alleviates symptoms of glaucoma, multiple sclerosis,
AIDS, migraines and other debilitating aliments.
16.Thirty-five states have passed legislation permitting medical use of
marijuana.
17.Twelve Americans receive prescribed marijuana from the U.S. government.
18.More than 400,000 Americans are arrested each year on marijuana charges.
19.More than 400,000 Americans die from diseases related to cigarette
smoking each year. More than 150,000 Americans die of alcohol abuse
each year. But in 10,000 years of usage, no one has ever died from
marijuana.
Thank you all very much for taking the time to read this file. I
hope it has given you a new look on the harmless use of marijuana.
Thank You All Again
Dementian