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Old Apr 16, 2010 | 10:12 PM
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ok so i was driving today and my '91 XJ just died on me. i have full power to everything. and yes there is gas in the tank. all it does crank. theres not even any sputtering like it wants to start. what could be some causes of this? please help.
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Old Apr 16, 2010 | 10:16 PM
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You have OBD, is your CEL on or are there any codes? do the "code trick" and tell us if there are any.

Older (OBDI) models - Start with the ignition off. Within five seconds, switch the key on, off, on, off, on. ("On" is NOT "Start" and "Off" is NOT "Lock"). The "check engine" light will flash. Count the flashes. Each code is a two digit code, so a (for example) 23 would be FLASH FLASH (pause) FLASH FLASH FLASH (long pause). It will never flash more than 9 times, so watch for those pauses!
Is it getting spark?
Can you hear the fuel pump prime when you turn the Key to "run"?
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Old Apr 16, 2010 | 10:31 PM
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i can here the fuel pump prime when i turn the key on yes. spark im not too sure yet. didnt have anyone around today to help with that. i just got towed home after sitting on the side of the road for a few hours. luckily my mom had AAA that i could use. also what is OBD and no there is no CEL on or anything like that. i'm gonna try working on it tomorrow if its not ****ty out.
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Old Apr 16, 2010 | 10:40 PM
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OBD stands for On Board Diagnostics. Its the computer system that turns on the CEL and gives the code.

Do what I have quoted in my earlier post and report back any codes, or if you have a camera, just record the flashes and post it on youtube. (A code 55 is normal, that means "end of codes")
i'm gonna try working on it tomorrow if its not ****ty out.
What are you gonna "try working on" when you have no idea what the problem is?

Fuel: good
Spark: unknown
Codes: need to be checked
Compression (if fuel and spark are present): unknown
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Old Apr 17, 2010 | 07:50 AM
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well i was gonna change out the CPS (crank position sensor) and see if that helps. a few of my buddies said to check that.
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Old Apr 17, 2010 | 08:06 AM
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ok from what i could tell i got these codes: 12, 36, 33, 33, 54, and 55. don't know why 33 came up twice. what do these mean??
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Old Apr 17, 2010 | 04:36 PM
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ok well i found out that i wasn't getting spark and i changed the ignition coil and still nothing. took the cap off the distributor with my old man today and realized that something flew off. narred up the whole inside of the cap and screwed everything up. got a brand new full distributor setup coming tomorrow hopefully.
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Old Apr 18, 2010 | 08:33 PM
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ok so i got my jeep running finally after many attempts to get it timed right so it would fire. haha. now i got a new problem. it hesitates when you hit the throttle at idle and then catches itself and i have a real bad rock knock and main bearing sounds like its really screwed up. i was hoping i wouldnt have to dump much money into this thing. what do you guys suggest i do with it?
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Old Apr 18, 2010 | 09:09 PM
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sounds like timing is way off, u sure it is rod and main bearing knock and not detonation
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Old Apr 18, 2010 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 91_XJ_Dude
ok so i got my jeep running finally after many attempts to get it timed right so it would fire. haha. now i got a new problem. it hesitates when you hit the throttle at idle and then catches itself and i have a real bad rock knock and main bearing sounds like its really screwed up. i was hoping i wouldnt have to dump much money into this thing. what do you guys suggest i do with it?
Why was the timing off? Was that from putting in the new distributor incorrectly?

I have a 99 Cherokee and it wasn't getting spark.. Replaced the CPS, coil, cap and rotor and now the coil sparks every 5-8 seconds. I'm thinking this could be a timing issue, but have been told it'd be nearly impossible for this thing to throw it's own timing off.
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Old Apr 18, 2010 | 10:09 PM
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yeah at first we didnt put the new distributor in right so it was really retarted and not starting. just backfiring. we read a few pages of the Haynes manual and found out the oil pump needs to be at 11 o' clock for the rotor to be at the number one spark plug so we did all that and it fired right up. but now theres hesitation in the throttle and its definitely rod knock and main bearing grinding i am hearing. and i also dont feel safe driving the thing due to death wobble really bad. and i dont have the money to have someone put my new tie rods, gear box, power steering pump in, and mount and balance my new tires and align everything.
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Old Apr 18, 2010 | 10:28 PM
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I would double check your timing. Get you #1 cylinder at TDC on the compression stroke. Your rotor should be pointing at the #1 wire. If not pull your distributor out and adjust it till you get. You may need a screw driver to turn the oil pump to get it to drop in.
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Old Apr 19, 2010 | 07:01 AM
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we did that. we did turn the oil pump and got everything to sit in just fine. it could just be ****ed up plugs from cranking it so much and just dumping fuel.
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