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Old May 13, 2010 | 02:35 PM
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you're right it does suck. sorry i started it
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Old May 13, 2010 | 02:53 PM
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None of RE's kits come with shocks so you can pick what shocks you wanted to buy. For instance if I bought an RC kit but wanted to get bilsteins I would have 4 extra shocks just laying around. Plus its better to buy your shocks to fit your application, rather than having a company just send you ****ty *** shocks.
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Old May 13, 2010 | 04:11 PM
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The only true "kit" is a parts car! My "complete" 3-inch kit really needs me to space the tranny crossmember down about an inch, and the track bar should be about a quarter inch longer.
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Old May 14, 2010 | 01:55 AM
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and a complete kit is almost like asking someone to think for you. Are you really gonna take the opinion of a company that doesn't know you? Opinions are like butt holes. Everyones got one and they all stink.
Just being a smart @$$ as always.
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Old Jun 13, 2010 | 12:15 PM
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Hey all,
Still new to the Cherokee scene. I have a 1990 Cherokee, still stock as far as I can tell. I want to lift it about 4in but looking at the "kits" I'm confused on what I need. I don't want a recomended kit but what I was wondering is if someone could make a list of parts I needed?
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Old Jun 13, 2010 | 12:27 PM
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For the front:
Control arms, upper and lower (upper are not required)
Springs
Sway bar disconnects
Trac Bar
Shocks

For the rear:
Leaf springs
Brake line extension
Shackles (not required)
Shocks

You may need a SYE or transfer case drop. Shims to adjust pinion angle. There might be some other small items but that is the basics.
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Old Jun 13, 2010 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by trs80
For the front:
Control arms, upper and lower (upper are not required)
Springs
Sway bar disconnects
Trac Bar
Shocks

For the rear:
Leaf springs
Brake line extension
Shackles (not required)
Shocks

You may need a SYE or transfer case drop. Shims to adjust pinion angle. There might be some other small items but that is the basics.
I don't want to sound dense but a couple more questions;
1. What is the purpose of shackles?
2. What is a SYE?
3. Why would I need a transfer case drop?

This is a daily drive jeep so I want to make sure everything is done right. Ty for the quick response.
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Old Jun 13, 2010 | 12:50 PM
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The reason most "kits" don't come with everything possibly needed is because of two reasons.

1. Some lifts don't even NEED a new trackbar or control arms, etc.
2. price

For example, a 3" lift doesn't NEED a new trackbar or LCAs. They are nice to have though. However, if every 3" lift came with an adjustable trackbar and LCAs, then they would be much more expensive and they probably wouldn't sell as many. Some people (especially those with only wheeling rigs) will try and lift the Jeep the cheapest way they can. If that means drilling a new trackbar hole or using stock arms, then thats what they do. I know I wouldn't do anything like blocks, but some people can only use what they can afford.
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Old Jun 13, 2010 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by wildspear
I don't want to sound dense but a couple more questions;
1. What is the purpose of shackles?
2. What is a SYE?
3. Why would I need a transfer case drop?

This is a daily drive jeep so I want to make sure everything is done right. Ty for the quick response.
Shackles attach the rear of the leaf springs to the body. You can get lift shackles that will add an inch or two to the ride height. With a 4" lift that you mentioned it may be a good thing to have to help correct the angle in which the shackle sits at. Using the stock shackle may cause a more vertical angle and will ride much stiffer then a shackle pointed at an angle toward the rear of the vehicle. Plus it will allow you to tailor the rear ride height to better match the front.

This is what one looks like, http://www.jeeperz-creeperz.com/adju...s-p-64648.html

A SYE is an abbrviation for slip yoke eliminator. In short answer, it allows you to run a longer (in length) drive shaft and moves the point where the DS attaches to the transfer case toward the front of the vehicle. Why is this needed, right? This is required for most XJ's above 4 to 5 inchs of lift but can be substituted for a transfer case drop (more on that later).

Image from Tom Woods,


http://www.4xshaft.com/index.html

When lifting an XJ you in turn in increase the angle in which the driveshaft sits at. This may cause vibrations which you will want to correct. A Sye or TC drop is the way to correct the issue.

A transfer case drop will do exactly that. It lowers the mounting point of the TC cross member which in turn decease's the angle of mentioned above.

http://www.ironrockoffroad.com/Merch..._Code=IR-XTCDK

The difference is what you intend to do with the rig. If ground clearance is an issue then SYE is what you want. If the rig see's more street then dirt a TC drop will suffice.

Hope that helped.
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Old Jun 13, 2010 | 11:14 PM
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RE offers pretty "complete kits" for those that want a "bolt-on and go" kit without really taking the time to completely and properly set up every aspect of their rig to make it perfect. another option that is pretty good is TNT Customs:

http://tntcustoms.com/rock-tek45susp...ionxj-1-1.aspx
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