Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here XJ (84-01)
All OEM related XJ specific tech. Examples, no start, general maintenance or anything that's stock.

Surging On LPG

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-26-2010, 04:42 AM
  #1  
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
Mick1950's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Lyne, Surrey, England.
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 3960cc
Default Surging On LPG

hi fantic. mick from England here. hope you are well and i guess enjoying the snow at this time of year. dunno why (4 months later) but the problem has started again! just to refresh.....if i switch to petrol it runs perfectly well. if you count in seconds ie 1,2, 1,2 etc.....the surge happens on 2 each time. it gets worse on load....ie going up an incline and is more prounounced from 0 to 60. above 60 it`s still there but not as noticeable. i did source and put in the manual T valve you suggested way back in September. any more ideas? oh, by the way....i ran it out of gas last week (after the problem started again) and then took the filter bowl apart (as in one of the pics).I expected to find it full of liquid and a diaphram filter which i would have to clean.....but didn`t have a clue what the hell was in there!!! so put it back together. any ideas? Cheers Mick
Old 01-26-2010, 10:28 AM
  #2  
Senior Member
 
Rmart30's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Birmingham, Alabama
Posts: 565
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Model: Cherokee
Default

Not sure what type of carb setup you are running but the Impco systems have a adjuster for setting the fuel on them. Its right under where the lp gas goes into the carb.
With help from a friend put it under a load and adjust it till it hits its highest rpm. You will hear its rpm fluctuate when you move the adjuster.
Have you tried to look up a manual for it online showing the adjusting procedure?
Old 01-26-2010, 10:44 AM
  #3  
CF Veteran
 
fantic238's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 5,383
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 1 Post
Year: 1988 limited
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 litre
Default

Hi Mick. Thank you for posting the PM on the forum so we can share the info with the others.
The surging is a pressure problem, now up tu us to understand wether the problem is in the high pressure circuit (tank to reducer) or in the low pressure (reducer to diffuser).
First of all, i need to know if you have it surging on idle too, or if the surging is dependent on the rpms, acceleration etc.
Old 01-26-2010, 10:49 AM
  #4  
CF Veteran
 
fantic238's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 5,383
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 1 Post
Year: 1988 limited
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 litre
Default

In the meanwhile here is the link to the old thread:
https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/surging-lpg-24984/
Old 01-27-2010, 04:54 AM
  #5  
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
Mick1950's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Lyne, Surrey, England.
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 3960cc
Default

Hi Rmart, thanks for your reply...really appreciate it and all stuff noted. fantic, it doesn`t surge on idle but as soon as i pull away it surges. the surging continues and is really bad upto 50 mph. the faster i go after 50 the less noticeable it is. however, if i am going uphill at 50+ (ie under load) it becomes worse.
Old 02-01-2010, 08:17 AM
  #6  
CF Veteran
 
fantic238's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 5,383
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 1 Post
Year: 1988 limited
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 litre
Default

Originally Posted by Mick1950
Hi Rmart, thanks for your reply...really appreciate it and all stuff noted. fantic, it doesn`t surge on idle but as soon as i pull away it surges. the surging continues and is really bad upto 50 mph. the faster i go after 50 the less noticeable it is. however, if i am going uphill at 50+ (ie under load) it becomes worse.
Ok it is definitely a pressure problem.
Try the following: inflate the tank with an air compressor for 5 seconds, using a small piece of rubber hose in front of the nozzle, when the tank is half full.
Then, when the engine is hot, turn it off and unscrew the little black cap on the bottom of the reducer, some black oily stuff should come out, let it all out then put the cap on again.
With a piece of duck tape close the air inlet of the air filter, about 30% of the surface and go test drive and let me know.
Old 02-01-2010, 08:20 AM
  #7  
CF Veteran
 
fantic238's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 5,383
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 1 Post
Year: 1988 limited
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 litre
Default

There:
Attached Images  
Old 02-02-2010, 10:08 AM
  #8  
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
Mick1950's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Lyne, Surrey, England.
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 3960cc
Default

ok, will do. thanks.
Old 03-05-2010, 06:37 AM
  #9  
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
Mick1950's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Lyne, Surrey, England.
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 3960cc
Default

Hi fantic. sorry, have had to deal with a family bereavment so haven`t had time to look at the problem. Just looked at your instructions again but do not understand how i get compressed air into the tank without having a nozzle the same as the LPG one.
Old 03-05-2010, 08:00 AM
  #10  
CF Veteran
 
fantic238's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 5,383
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 1 Post
Year: 1988 limited
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 litre
Default

If you have a compressor with the classic gun
you just need to press it with a little rubber o-ring or similiar against the filling hole where the little ball is and it will work.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
libengan
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
14
11-06-2015 09:16 AM
australian_expat
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
4
09-02-2015 09:02 PM
Sharkie
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
1
08-31-2015 08:21 AM
Mick1950
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
11
09-29-2009 05:45 AM
spikelet
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
7
07-07-2008 01:32 PM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


Quick Reply: Surging On LPG



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:33 AM.