renix overheating weird.
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From: The Republic of TEXAS
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L HO
I would think there could be variables there. I could see a 40* spread in cold ambient temps, running the heater, little to no flow thru the rad. I wouldn't think the spread would be that much in 3 digit ambient, running a/c and the stat is wide open allowing constant high flow thru the rad.
Last edited by djb383; Oct 20, 2014 at 03:40 PM.
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From: ogden, utah
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: l6
This is my thinking.
The setting:
Dash reads 208* (from sending unit at the back of the head)
IR temp on thermostat housing reads 208*
IR temp on lower rad hose (where my fan switch should be, where it's COOLER) reads 176*.
If I put my fan switch up on the thermostat housing (208*) the fan would kick on at 176* not allowing it to be at the correct temp.
UNLESS. I had a later model switch.
???
The setting:
Dash reads 208* (from sending unit at the back of the head)
IR temp on thermostat housing reads 208*
IR temp on lower rad hose (where my fan switch should be, where it's COOLER) reads 176*.
If I put my fan switch up on the thermostat housing (208*) the fan would kick on at 176* not allowing it to be at the correct temp.
UNLESS. I had a later model switch.
???
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From: Prescott, Az
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
This is my thinking.
The setting:
Dash reads 208* (from sending unit at the back of the head)
IR temp on thermostat housing reads 208*
IR temp on lower rad hose (where my fan switch should be, where it's COOLER) reads 176*.
If I put my fan switch up on the thermostat housing (208*) the fan would kick on at 176* not allowing it to be at the correct temp.
UNLESS. I had a later model switch.
???
The setting:
Dash reads 208* (from sending unit at the back of the head)
IR temp on thermostat housing reads 208*
IR temp on lower rad hose (where my fan switch should be, where it's COOLER) reads 176*.
If I put my fan switch up on the thermostat housing (208*) the fan would kick on at 176* not allowing it to be at the correct temp.
UNLESS. I had a later model switch.
???
Disregard any info given through testing which reveals that the temp at the back of the head is about 208*, that the CTS is at 208*, and that the fan kicked on at 208*.
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From: ogden, utah
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In the name of science, please try putting the fan switch on the thermostat housing and report the results.
Disregard any info given through testing which reveals that the temp at the back of the head is about 208*, that the CTS is at 208*, and that the fan kicked on at 208*.
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From: Prescott, Az
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What you are failing to see is that the engine's cooling system holds about 2 gallons.
The water pump probably moves 5 gallons PER MINUTE at cruise.
Not to much time for temps to vary alot.
The water pump probably moves 5 gallons PER MINUTE at cruise.
Not to much time for temps to vary alot.
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From: The Republic of TEXAS
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L HO
This is my thinking.
The setting:
Dash reads 208* (from sending unit at the back of the head)
IR temp on thermostat housing reads 208*
IR temp on lower rad hose (where my fan switch should be, where it's COOLER) reads 176*.
If I put my fan switch up on the thermostat housing (208*) the fan would kick on at 176* not allowing it to be at the correct temp.
UNLESS. I had a later model switch.
???
The setting:
Dash reads 208* (from sending unit at the back of the head)
IR temp on thermostat housing reads 208*
IR temp on lower rad hose (where my fan switch should be, where it's COOLER) reads 176*.
If I put my fan switch up on the thermostat housing (208*) the fan would kick on at 176* not allowing it to be at the correct temp.
UNLESS. I had a later model switch.
???
If that's the case, then the early model sensor mounted in the stat cover will turn the efan on sooner and run it longer than the late model sensor that triggers @ 218* and is normally mounted in the stat cover. Right?
Again, it depends on ambient temps/driving conditions. Agreed, at hi-way speeds coolant flow is rapid but there may be little to no flow thru the rad at hi-way speeds due to the stat being closed. If the stat is closed, coolant flow is really, really, really rapid thru the bypass loop.
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The IR temp gun seemed accurate for a couple tests I did...Ice was 32*, boiling water about 212. T-stat normally around 195*. So yea, the brass hex housing of the switch, 176*, fan running.
Pretty much no doubt that if HO has a fan switch in the T-stat housing, it's gonna trigger at a higher temp. IN your shoes JamDeaper, I'd hit the JY, grab a housing with that switch in it, wire it up and don't look back!
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From: ogden, utah
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Let's say 30* Just because I caught it baking hot doesn't mean the sky is the limit.
The IR temp gun seemed accurate for a couple tests I did...Ice was 32*, boiling water about 212. T-stat normally around 195*. So yea, the brass hex housing of the switch, 176*, fan running.
Pretty much no doubt that if HO has a fan switch in the T-stat housing, it's gonna trigger at a higher temp. IN your shoes JamDeaper, I'd hit the JY, grab a housing with that switch in it, wire it up and don't look back!
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