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Note from DJ
Needle nose plyers to bend the tabs over first
These to make a tight crimp
IRWIN VISE-GRIP
5CR Original Curved Jaw - Size 5" (125 mm) Jaw Capacity 1-1/8" (29 mm) P#4935579
yeah I gave something like this a shot with a finishing nail head in the jaw to replace the die. I also hit up del city and s&g tools and upon their advice bought this thing
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sng-18980?ibanner=MobileSwitchNo
it crimps pretty much everything except wire above 10 AWG aaaaand the one thing I want it for rn. Whatever, it'll come in handy later.
Well, I wouldn't use Vise-Grips to crimp. To be sure.
At that point, you aren't crimping, you're mashing things. Not good. You're damaging the strands and creating a weak point. A proper crimp tool will get it done right, but, the problem the OP has...is not a common one. Doing multiple crimps on a terminal like that, you need the right tooling. All that was automated. From the factory. You are NOT gonna find that tooling.
That lug...cruiser is right, you need a tool LIKE a spark plug terminal tool...one that not only crimps the wire to the terminal, but one that crimps to the insulation as well. IF they were individual crimps, not a big deal...but on a strip like that? You need to break them up, do them individually...THEN bus them together.
Bottom line is you need special tooling to do multiple crimps like that in a row...you are not gonna find it.
I take it that crimp tool crimped your connectors? I didn't think it would fit in there. The sparkys at the shop use a set similar to that on the job. They are very nice. The ones our guys use have a ratchet mechanism that allows you to hold the lug, insert the wire, then crimp it.
yeah I gave something like this a shot with a finishing nail head in the jaw to replace the die. I also hit up del city and s&g tools and upon their advice bought this thing
Well, I wouldn't use Vise-Grips to crimp. To be sure.
At that point, you aren't crimping, you're mashing things. Not good. You're damaging the strands and creating a weak point. A proper crimp tool will get it done right, but, the problem the OP has...is not a common one. Doing multiple crimps on a terminal like that, you need the right tooling. All that was automated. From the factory. You are NOT gonna find that tooling.
That lug...cruiser is right, you need a tool LIKE a spark plug terminal tool...one that not only crimps the wire to the terminal, but one that crimps to the insulation as well. IF they were individual crimps, not a big deal...but on a strip like that? You need to break them up, do them individually...THEN bus them together.
Bottom line is you need special tooling to do multiple crimps like that in a row...you are not gonna find it.
To be clear here...I used your image to make this...
The problem is not the individual crimp, but the fact it's in a row like that...the ground side. IF you could find a crimp tool that did all three at the same time, no problem. But you aren't gonna find it. Trust me, I did cabling and harnessing for NASA for 25 years.
Originally Posted by bad_idea
Greenlight,
I take it that crimp tool crimped your connectors? I didn't think it would fit in there. The sparkys at the shop use a set similar to that on the job. They are very nice. The ones our guys use have a ratchet mechanism that allows you to hold the lug, insert the wire, then crimp it.
Originally Posted by Greenlight
it crimps pretty much everything except wire above 10 AWG aaaaand the one thing I want it for rn. Whatever, it'll come in handy later.
I take it that crimp tool crimped your connectors? I didn't think it would fit in there. The sparkys at the shop use a set similar to that on the job. They are very nice. The ones our guys use have a ratchet mechanism that allows you to hold the lug, insert the wire, then crimp it.
That crimp tool didn't do the trick. It's works the same way buuuut none of the die allow for the bus. Whomp.
The problem is not the individual crimp, but the fact it's in a row like that...the ground side. IF you could find a crimp tool that did all three at the same time, no problem. But you aren't gonna find it. Trust me, I did cabling and harnessing for NASA for 25 years.
There's your answer, LOL
See above, haha...
Yep. That's the problem. At this point I'm wondering if there isn't a crazy huge market for a die set to do this.
He states in there it would have been nice to have a ratcheting type tool, but I don't think it would help on the bus bars, like he said, a set of manual crimpers and getting "creative" are gonna be about the only way.
BTW, the terminal kit he posted, a must have if you're doing a lot of connector refurbs...a good insertion/removal tool is worth it's weight in gold, haha
He states in there it would have been nice to have a ratcheting type tool, but I don't think it would help on the bus bars, like he said, a set of manual crimpers and getting "creative" are gonna be about the only way.
BTW, the terminal kit he posted, a must have if you're doing a lot of connector refurbs...a good insertion/removal tool is worth it's weight in gold, haha
I searched there is no tool when there on a bar like that.
