Purchase and installing a rebuilt 4.0: How much should it cost?
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Purchase and installing a rebuilt 4.0: How much should it cost?
My girlfriend's 2000 Cherokee is in my friend's shop right now for a flush. He said it is on the leading edge of a head gasket failure. His test equipment is not indicating a full leak, but definetely some seepage.
The motor also has a knock that is heard on startup and, I'm pretty sure, is always evident.
My friend says he's leary about putting a new head gasket on a knocking motor. Says he's seen the result of the proper compression causing a spun bearing on the old rods/crank.
I can get an entire rebuilt engine with a 3 year/250,000 mile full warranty for $1745 to install myself or $2800 to have the motor exchange place do it.
Looking at this thing and knowing the motor is "tired", I'm tempted to just drop a new one in. The Jeep is in fantastic shape with no rust other than surface rust on the undercarraige components. I'm actually impressed with how clean it looks underneath. It has been babied. Zero off road use.
What would you do and what would you expect to pay? Thanks!
The motor also has a knock that is heard on startup and, I'm pretty sure, is always evident.
My friend says he's leary about putting a new head gasket on a knocking motor. Says he's seen the result of the proper compression causing a spun bearing on the old rods/crank.
I can get an entire rebuilt engine with a 3 year/250,000 mile full warranty for $1745 to install myself or $2800 to have the motor exchange place do it.
Looking at this thing and knowing the motor is "tired", I'm tempted to just drop a new one in. The Jeep is in fantastic shape with no rust other than surface rust on the undercarraige components. I'm actually impressed with how clean it looks underneath. It has been babied. Zero off road use.
What would you do and what would you expect to pay? Thanks!
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you should check everdrive.com. I found the engine for your car for around 1500 shipped to you. Has a 3 year UNLIMITED mileage warranty.
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I would ask your friend to guide you through rebuilding it yourself,assuming you have not done this before. it is alot cheaper and you will have a better motor when done,most rebuilt engines are done assembly line style and the quality is not as good as you can do, you would learn alot and save many dollars.
If that is not something you want to do then I would have your friend rebuild it,you will get a better motor.
If that is not something you want to do then I would have your friend rebuild it,you will get a better motor.
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Actually, my friend is not in that line of work. He is the store manager of a Goodyear Auto Care Center. They do a lot, but they don't do engine builds and/or swaps.
As far as me rebuilding it, I'm a singe dad of 7-year-old triplets and I work full time. May days of spending hours in the garage building engines are done. I can do it, but I prefer not to and prbably can't do it in a timely manner anyhow. I am all for doing the swap myself to save $1000. Still, having not done this in a looooong time, I picture myself being hit left and right with surprises like specialty tools I don't have andbreaking stuff that wasn't supposed to break. You know how it goes.
As far as me rebuilding it, I'm a singe dad of 7-year-old triplets and I work full time. May days of spending hours in the garage building engines are done. I can do it, but I prefer not to and prbably can't do it in a timely manner anyhow. I am all for doing the swap myself to save $1000. Still, having not done this in a looooong time, I picture myself being hit left and right with surprises like specialty tools I don't have andbreaking stuff that wasn't supposed to break. You know how it goes.
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I understand your situation,I would still have a good machine shop or engine rebuilder do the rebuild,and do the install yourself and spend the money you save on your triplets and girlfriend.
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I still wouldn't mind spending the time, but now is not the time for it. My wife passed away last March and I'm choosing to spend as much time with the kids as possible. We're all ok, but things like engines and stuff will take a back seat.
I still need to evaluate the worth of putting $1000-$2000 into a nine year old vehicle, plus it needs an evap core and heater core. Who knows how long the trans will last? Transfer case? All that stuff.
But the body and chassis look great.
I still need to evaluate the worth of putting $1000-$2000 into a nine year old vehicle, plus it needs an evap core and heater core. Who knows how long the trans will last? Transfer case? All that stuff.
But the body and chassis look great.
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Sorry about your loss. not sure what trany you have but my auto has over 250k on it and going strong,better find some wood,lol. as far as the heater and ac that can be very spending due to the labor involved,it is very possible you could be into this with motor and other repairs close to $4000-$5000,someone on here the other day was quoted $1000 to replace the heater core.
Depending on miles it has I think it is still worth it,and you will know what you have vs not knowing.
Depending on miles it has I think it is still worth it,and you will know what you have vs not knowing.
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Hey, all! Thanks for the advice so far. You guys have been very helpful!
Question… I can get a rebuilt engine for $1750 with a 250,000/3 year full warranty from Michigan Motor Exchange or I can get a used engine from Evertime for $1600.
Why would I pay $100 less for a used motor? Wouldn’t a rebuilt motor with all new components be a better deal? What am I missing here?
Looks like I will do both the heater and evap core. I have all next week off and nothing but time. I do have help from a 4wd gearhead junkie friend of mine. I’ll just spend the entire day on it and let the kids watch movies and feast on sugar all day LOL!! It saves me about $800.
Then I know the core’s are good. The shop got the radiator unplugged and said it was in excellent shape (it’s only 2 years old). Then if I swap a motor for under $2000, I’m all set for well under $3000 total. I think this Jeep is worth it.
What you say? And thanks again.
Question… I can get a rebuilt engine for $1750 with a 250,000/3 year full warranty from Michigan Motor Exchange or I can get a used engine from Evertime for $1600.
Why would I pay $100 less for a used motor? Wouldn’t a rebuilt motor with all new components be a better deal? What am I missing here?
Looks like I will do both the heater and evap core. I have all next week off and nothing but time. I do have help from a 4wd gearhead junkie friend of mine. I’ll just spend the entire day on it and let the kids watch movies and feast on sugar all day LOL!! It saves me about $800.
Then I know the core’s are good. The shop got the radiator unplugged and said it was in excellent shape (it’s only 2 years old). Then if I swap a motor for under $2000, I’m all set for well under $3000 total. I think this Jeep is worth it.
What you say? And thanks again.
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Hey, all! Thanks for the advice so far. You guys have been very helpful!
Question… I can get a rebuilt engine for $1750 with a 250,000/3 year full warranty from Michigan Motor Exchange or I can get a used engine from Evertime for $1600.
Why would I pay $100 less for a used motor? Wouldn’t a rebuilt motor with all new components be a better deal? What am I missing here?
Looks like I will do both the heater and evap core. I have all next week off and nothing but time. I do have help from a 4wd gearhead junkie friend of mine. I’ll just spend the entire day on it and let the kids watch movies and feast on sugar all day LOL!! It saves me about $800.
Then I know the core’s are good. The shop got the radiator unplugged and said it was in excellent shape (it’s only 2 years old). Then if I swap a motor for under $2000, I’m all set for well under $3000 total. I think this Jeep is worth it.
What you say? And thanks again.
Question… I can get a rebuilt engine for $1750 with a 250,000/3 year full warranty from Michigan Motor Exchange or I can get a used engine from Evertime for $1600.
Why would I pay $100 less for a used motor? Wouldn’t a rebuilt motor with all new components be a better deal? What am I missing here?
Looks like I will do both the heater and evap core. I have all next week off and nothing but time. I do have help from a 4wd gearhead junkie friend of mine. I’ll just spend the entire day on it and let the kids watch movies and feast on sugar all day LOL!! It saves me about $800.
Then I know the core’s are good. The shop got the radiator unplugged and said it was in excellent shape (it’s only 2 years old). Then if I swap a motor for under $2000, I’m all set for well under $3000 total. I think this Jeep is worth it.
What you say? And thanks again.
i would say its worth it. rust free jeeps are hard to come by in MI. i have a 2000 and its rusting out bad.
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Hey, all! Thanks for the advice so far. You guys have been very helpful!
Question… I can get a rebuilt engine for $1750 with a 250,000/3 year full warranty from Michigan Motor Exchange or I can get a used engine from Evertime for $1600.
Why would I pay $100 less for a used motor? Wouldn’t a rebuilt motor with all new components be a better deal? What am I missing here?
Looks like I will do both the heater and evap core. I have all next week off and nothing but time. I do have help from a 4wd gearhead junkie friend of mine. I’ll just spend the entire day on it and let the kids watch movies and feast on sugar all day LOL!! It saves me about $800.
Then I know the core’s are good. The shop got the radiator unplugged and said it was in excellent shape (it’s only 2 years old). Then if I swap a motor for under $2000, I’m all set for well under $3000 total. I think this Jeep is worth it.
What you say? And thanks again.
Question… I can get a rebuilt engine for $1750 with a 250,000/3 year full warranty from Michigan Motor Exchange or I can get a used engine from Evertime for $1600.
Why would I pay $100 less for a used motor? Wouldn’t a rebuilt motor with all new components be a better deal? What am I missing here?
Looks like I will do both the heater and evap core. I have all next week off and nothing but time. I do have help from a 4wd gearhead junkie friend of mine. I’ll just spend the entire day on it and let the kids watch movies and feast on sugar all day LOL!! It saves me about $800.
Then I know the core’s are good. The shop got the radiator unplugged and said it was in excellent shape (it’s only 2 years old). Then if I swap a motor for under $2000, I’m all set for well under $3000 total. I think this Jeep is worth it.
What you say? And thanks again.
Either way, your plan sounds good. Sounds like a fun project for a weekend. Make sure you have all your gaskets and fluids on hand before you start; sucks to have to stop in the middle for a damn intake manny gasket or something.
EDITED!!: I did a quick google search on that company you are planning to go with and the very second hit was a link off of ripoffreport.com (great site for finding out if certain products are bs or not). Looks like they might be shady... http://www.ripoffreport.com/Auto-Par...ll-n-fadc4.htm
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