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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
Just go with the Rotella and a Wix and get it over with.
What about FRAM? LOL JK. My next filter is a Wix.
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by cruiser54

Just go with the Rotella and a Wix and get it over with.
Exactly.

I will be swapping over this weekend.

I use only k&n filters tho
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Old Aug 8, 2012 | 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Amos
Is it synthetic?
No. The bottle you have pictured is 100% conventional oil.


Rotella T is conventional.
T5 is semi-synthetic (blend)
T6 is full synthetic
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Old Aug 8, 2012 | 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by NorCalJeep
What about FRAM?
Put 'er on. We're bored.




J/K. Don't do that.
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Old Aug 8, 2012 | 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by cruiser54

Just go with the Rotella and a Wix and get it over with.
Not looking to use it. Just saw it and thought I would ask about it.

I already have a combo I use. Probably going to a Mopar filter next time though.
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Old Aug 8, 2012 | 01:12 AM
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For what its worth wal-mart introduced a new line of fram filters that are not sold on the shelf only used in the tire and lube express shop. It is called a fram core and is constructed completely different and the internals are all metal no plastic anti drain back. Iv also noticed they hold oil much better than the standard fram filters. If iv got some spare time in my shop I'll cut one of each apart and take pictures.
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Old Aug 8, 2012 | 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by DESERTXJ206
For what its worth wal-mart introduced a new line of fram filters that are not sold on the shelf only used in the tire and lube express shop. It is called a fram core and is constructed completely different and the internals are all metal no plastic anti drain back. Iv also noticed they hold oil much better than the standard fram filters. If iv got some spare time in my shop I'll cut one of each apart and take pictures.
Not recommending using the fram filter but their new design is different. Iv never used one on a 4.0 though.
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Old Aug 8, 2012 | 06:14 AM
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Here's how I feel about Fram. I don't care what they come up with now. They've been absolutely derelict in their quality/design/function in their filters forever. I'm not rewarding them, nor do I trust them now, considering all the damage that has been done to our 4.0s over the years. I'll support someone who looked out for us all along.
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Old Aug 8, 2012 | 06:29 AM
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Ive noticed that since i used a Fram oil filter my jeep starts with more noise... Like it takes a few secs for the oil to hit the bearings... This weekend Napa gold all the way.....

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Old Aug 8, 2012 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by novitus
Ive noticed that since i used a Fram oil filter my jeep starts with more noise... Like it takes a moment for the oil to hit the bearings... This weekend Napa gold all the way.....
You aren't alone and not the first one to notice that.

F*R*A*M=Forever*Ruining*Automobile*Motors.
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Old Aug 8, 2012 | 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
You aren't alone and not the first one to notice that.

F*R*A*M=Forever*Ruining*Automobile*Motors.
You really like acronyms huh?
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Old Aug 8, 2012 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by novitus
You really like acronyms huh?
Yeah, they're fun.
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Old Aug 8, 2012 | 08:44 AM
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I did a oil/filter change on a friend's 4.0 XJ recently. I went ahead and picked up the filter (NAPA GOLD) and already had the oil (NAPA PREMIUM). His oil didn't look all that dirty but he's had to do alot of highway driving this HOT summer. He usually gets his oil changes at a local tire distributer. It had a FRAM filter. Anyway,he said his o/p gauge would usually read 45 to 50lbs cold and just above 30lbs hot at an idle. Now he's reading close to 60lbs cold and just below 40 at idle hot. He's happy.

On more thing. What's with the popular use of Rotella in the 4.0's?
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Old Aug 8, 2012 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by EZEARL
I did a oil/filter change on a friend's 4.0 XJ recently. I went ahead and picked up the filter (NAPA GOLD) and already had the oil (NAPA PREMIUM). His oil didn't look all that dirty but he's had to do alot of highway driving this HOT summer. He usually gets his oil changes at a local tire distributer. It had a FRAM filter. Anyway,he said his o/p gauge would usually read 45 to 50lbs cold and just above 30lbs hot at an idle. Now he's reading close to 60lbs cold and just below 40 at idle hot. He's happy.

On more thing. What's with the popular use of Rotella in the 4.0's?
The government reduced the zinc content of the oil (ZDDP) used in gas burning engines for emmissions reasons. For a motor with flat lifters, zinc is necesary to prevent the cam lobes getting scuffed or wearing down. Our government officials reasoned that most motors from mid-nineties up have roller lifters and don't need the zinc. For the rest of us with non-rollers they don't care. Rotella for diesels has more zinc as does most racing oils.
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Old Aug 8, 2012 | 12:11 PM
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I was thinkin bout goin to Lucas oil or purple power, whats your guys thoughts on those, n prolly a k&n filter
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