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No Aux Fan (Help!)

Old Aug 9, 2015 | 02:25 PM
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Did all the basic check fuses/relays. ECT has been changed, relay swapped for known good one. Fan works if I remove relay and jumper 30 and 87. I'm down to where I did the 470 ohm resistor across the ECT connector contacts and still no fan. Any ideas? Oh yeah 94 cherokee I6.
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Old Aug 9, 2015 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by oldguy52
Did all the basic check fuses/relays. ECT has been changed, relay swapped for known good one. Fan works if I remove relay and jumper 30 and 87. I'm down to where I did the 470 ohm resistor across the ECT connector contacts and still no fan. Any ideas? Oh yeah 94 cherokee I6.
Given that fan works when relay is bypassed, I would try another relay or check the relay socket and wiring real good.

I have had "good" relays that click indicating the primary side functions, but the contacts for the secondary side were failed.
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Old Aug 9, 2015 | 03:04 PM
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I tried multiple relays and then I picked a new one, all with the same results. I also ran test leads from relay socket to the relay to perform the following. With the leads connected from the socket to the relay as if it were plugged in I get as expected nothing. If I then pull the lead out of 86 and connect it to ground the fan goes on. I appears the PCM is just not providing ground when at temp. I checked the ECT connector with my meter and I get 5 volts going to battery ground on one terminal and no volts on the other. I also get 5 volts going across the two terminals. I'm kinda stumped.
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Old Aug 9, 2015 | 07:15 PM
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I tried multiple relays and then I picked a new one, all with the same results. ...I'm kinda stumped.
These are tough. Try cleaning cable connectors and grounds. I have even decabled/clean/recabled the ECU (Computer) just to get stuff to work right. Or at least eliminate a possible issue. And service all the grounds per Cruiser54 or CCKen's advice. Its all written up on the Forum. Mfgrs cut a lot of corners trying to use the car body as the load balancing path of the circuit. Only a good idea on the showroom floor. After a few decades of field service these connections degrade.
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Old Aug 16, 2015 | 07:32 AM
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I completed A/C hookup and charge only to find out that aux fan will not come on with A/C either. If I jump 30 to 87 on A/C relay I get A/C but no fan. In diagram below I have checked and diagnosed fuses and relays in the dotted line PDC box below but do not know where to find supposed fuse at top of diagram connected to ST-RUN-A21. I don't have a single 20amp fuse under dash and nothing labeled accordingly. THIS FUSE WOULD EXPLAIN LOSING BOTH. Any help would be appreciated, Thnx


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Old Aug 16, 2015 | 08:49 AM
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Ever disconnect coolant temp switch yet ? Try jumping ac pressure switch yet ? If fan comes on by doing these id suspect cts or not enough freon pressure to activate low pressure.

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Old Aug 16, 2015 | 10:39 AM
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Did the coolant temp disconnect early on with no results. Ditto on the low pressure switch. I jumped 30 to 87 on A/C relay to force the compressor on so I could charge the system still no joy although pressures and good cold air proves A/C works. None of the above will get the aux fan to come on unless I jump 30 to 87 on aux relay. Both ECT and low pressure switch are new. Swapped each relay with known working and still no joy. This A/C system worked before I tore everything apart for rebuild. Ugh.
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Old Aug 16, 2015 | 10:42 AM
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Check grounds at relay socket gotta have both or no worke... Check ground wires at dip stick and fenderwell by battery.

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Old Aug 19, 2015 | 07:12 AM
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Never thought to read codes as I didn't have a CEL and i knew the bulb worked. Having run out of ideas I figured what the hell. Well I have codes!

Open or short AUX Fan relay circuit
Open or short A/C clutch relay circuit
ECT voltage max or min exceeded

Now that's a fine Howdy Do. Clearly my engine harness is FUBAR.
I'm envisioning it spread apart on my garage floor.

As a start I think I'll clear the PCM and leave the ECT disconnected as I just replaced it and see what codes come back then plan for a long weekend.
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