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Old Mar 3, 2021 | 03:28 AM
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I replaced the water temp sensor with a new OE sensor by Mopar. The Mopar water temp gauge is reading 10 to 15 degrees hotter than my previous one.

I'm assuming that I should trust in the new Mopars readings. Thoughts?? If this is the case then I would prefer my XJ to run in the low 190's rather than the high 210's. So what do you guys think?? I'm planning to do a full flush soon but do you think an Aluminum Radiator and a possible electric fan setup would be worth the investment??

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Old Mar 3, 2021 | 07:32 AM
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First verify your true temp at the t-stat housing with a infrared thermometer.
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Old Mar 3, 2021 | 09:15 AM
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Old sensor was possibly filthy and worn out. Electronic components dont last forever. But yes use an infrared thermometer and see if the housing is the same temp as your dash gauge. And BTW, these motors are meant to run at 200-210 degrees for optimum performance. Below that and you may not be getting the full potential out of it..... Engine temp plays a roll in engine performance and efficiency.
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Old Mar 3, 2021 | 10:40 AM
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Take your new sensor out and and drop in a pot of boiling water keeping the elec part dry...after a few minutes should read 625-725 ohms... do the same for the old one see how much it differs. Mine reads 675 which is dead center on the fsm charts...when I dial 675 into the wiring harness...my gage goes dead 210
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The boiling pot of water idea skipped my mind.... I like that one.
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Old Mar 3, 2021 | 12:30 PM
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Sadly for you...at 5000' I don't know if water boils at 210-212...at 8 feet above sl in LI I know its 212
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I live at 5,351 feet. Boiling point drops to 180 with just those extra 351 feet.
JK. I actually think that boiling up here is about 202 or 204. I did measure it one time........................ Hang on....

Yeap internet says 202 degrees.

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Old Mar 3, 2021 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by SeniorXJ
I I'm planning to do a full flush soon but do you think an Aluminum Radiator and a possible electric fan setup would be worth the investment??

Thanks!!
If you want to go all aluminum, I'd suggest stick with a 2 row. upgrade SKU 221504 They are 1 3/4 thick in the core and designed to be stock fit / flex with jeep movement and they do a really nice job cooling. We sell a lot to desert crawlers and have had zero complaints on cooling capacity. For a $200 investment, it's well worth it.

As for electric fans - we usually do a triple 10 inch radiator + fan layout. Again does the job with zero complaints, unless you are riding in Mexico ,, then I'd say we take 1 of the 3 fans and bump it up to a a super high capacity one.

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Originally Posted by RockyMtn96XJ
I live at 5,351 feet. Boiling point drops to 180 with just those extra 351 feet.
JK. I actually think that boiling up here is about 202 or 204. I did measure it one time........................ Hang on....

Yeap internet says 202 degrees.
I live at -20 ft below sea level so what would that equal out at? 180°?
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I will definitely break out the temp gun and get a reading tomorrow.
Not sure on the boiling water tho. Do I leave the sensor plugged in or do I take it out and use a DMM to take the readings?
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VA is the same as Long Island 212 ballpark. You have to take it out and do the boiling and readings in the kitchen with a DMM. Its a little easier if you can make up some jumper wires for the terminals in the sensor...easier to hold /keep out of the water and read with the meter. By the time you bring the pot of water outside ..its not 212 anymore but you still have to have the sensor removed. . I don't have a infra red thermometer so I cant vouch for the accuracy but give it a try and see what it reads. You can aim the thermometer at the boiling water in the pot...see what it reads also.it will tell you how accurate the thing is
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Old Mar 4, 2021 | 07:52 PM
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I find the IR thermometer decently accurate if you can shoot it right on the metal part of the thermostat housing next to where the main hose goes to the radiator. That's as compared to my Subaru where the housing is plastic and on the bottom of the motor so this isn't an option...
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Originally Posted by RadiatorExpress
If you want to go all aluminum, I'd suggest stick with a 2 row. upgrade SKU 221504 They are 1 3/4 thick in the core and designed to be stock fit / flex with jeep movement and they do a really nice job cooling. We sell a lot to desert crawlers and have had zero complaints on cooling capacity. For a $200 investment, it's well worth it.

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That's pretty cheap for aluminum radiator! The next closest radiator I can find is by B​​​​​e Cool and has the same stats as yours but its much more expensive.
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We haven't even verified the actual temp and we're suggesting radiator replacement?
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Verifying the temp has been suggested multiple times. Do it. Get an IR thermometer and verify the temp. Could be the sensor, the wiring, and even the gauge. Or none of the above and all is well.

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We haven't even verified the actual temp and we're suggesting radiator replacement?
Parts cannon locked and loaded lol.

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