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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Slick761
If you choose carefully a lot of parts are as good as from the dealer. Jeep does not make all the little electronics, oil filters etc. They are made by others and used by jeep. You can usually find the oem cheaper direct then from the dealer.
Jeep still makes oil filters they have mopar on the side.
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 07:04 PM
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Noone could pay me enough to use a Fram on any of my vehicles. As stated above, the base line filter is pathetic. The tough gaurds are barely in the 'decent' end of the scale simply because they employ a decent drain back valve. I use Napa Gold or PureOne if theyre on sale. Never have an issue. My '07 Ford Focus with 115k miles and my mother's '02 Escape with 170k miles get Motorcraft filters. I spit in the direction of the Fram filters. I've seen seals blow, media fall apart, drain back valves fail, everything from Fram filters.

Spend the extra $3-4 and get the better filters with the added piece of mind. I look at it this way:

$7 filter vs $1000 engine; you're choice.
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 07:29 PM
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Yup fram sucks. I don't really have a brand preference but I will only buy either bosh, purolator pure one, Motorcraft. Never use fram if I can at all help it.
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 07:48 PM
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I use nothing buy k&n filters. after 3000 miles the oil is so clean you can see through it. at 10bucks a pop there pricey but worth every penny
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 08:14 PM
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Pricey $6 nut on the end and it's not made by K&N.
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverHaze

Jeep still makes oil filters they have mopar on the side.
Incorrect. They are made by purolator. It comes down to champion labs, Mobil, purolator, I believe wix ( might be champion labs can't remember) point is there aren't many companies making filters. Same companies putting different names on em.

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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 09:59 PM
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All you have to do is check the numbers. Wix filter for my 2000 is 8585 I believe. Napa car quest blue is 08585 and napa gold I believe is 18585. See a pattern. Wix makes many filters for different companies. Wix is the BEST hands down!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 10:09 PM
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The point of a anti-drainback valve is to keep oil in the filter otherwise it would be called a drainback valve. That way there is already oil in the filter on start up. Maybe the valve was letting the oil drain out of it after sitting and it was having to fill the filter up at every start up. I do agree though that there are much better filters out there for the same money.
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by tonyh45
All you have to do is check the numbers. Wix filter for my 2000 is 8585 I believe. Napa car quest blue is 08585 and napa gold I believe is 18585. See a pattern. Wix makes many filters for different companies. Wix is the BEST hands down!!!!!!!!!!!
All the reviews I've read liked wid a lot but Mobil and purolator beat them out.
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 11:04 PM
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Guess this is a few years old...08;

http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oil.../opinions.html
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 11:37 PM
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If you look a ton of those are made by champion lab. Auto manufacturers all choose a company and have them make their filters and stamp their names on it. The research and development and tooling and staffing would not be cost effective at all when they can buy from companies specializing in the field very cheap. They do however tend to choose a quality design as their name is on the product and if the quality were poor it would reflect on them.
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Old Dec 31, 2011 | 01:37 AM
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Just wanted to throw in my personal experience... When I got my 96 back in early September of this year, the dumb*** PO had a Fram tough guard in it. Whenever I'd be accelerating up to freeway speed and also coasting at freeway speed, i'd get reallllllyyy bad vibes of all sorts (not dw mind you). I inspected closer and noticed my motor mounts were crap. Replaced those and that helped a lot. However, those vibes were still very noticeable. After reading around, I came across a read on oil filters and how Fram is no good. Replaced the Fram filter with a Mobil 1 and changed the oil and BAM, vibes are gone. I never woulda guessed an oil filter could cause something like that... But it showed me that I will never use Fram again, nor will anyone that I talk to, because I will advise them not to do so either.
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Old Dec 31, 2011 | 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Slick761
If you look a ton of those are made by champion lab. Auto manufacturers all choose a company and have them make their filters and stamp their names on it. The research and development and tooling and staffing would not be cost effective at all when they can buy from companies specializing in the field very cheap. They do however tend to choose a quality design as their name is on the product and if the quality were poor it would reflect on them.
Yes, they are made by Champion labs but the customer gets to choose the level of quality Champion builds them to.
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Old Dec 31, 2011 | 07:06 AM
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i use the mopar filter...
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 10:01 PM
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I'm sticking to WIX.
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