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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by greenxj21
I just hate all the ricers around me. They spend $$ on plastic kits and stupid mufflers that they think make them sound ba. Whenever one *takes off* I almost have to pull over I am laughing so hard. It sounds like some person having explosive diareah. I hate how they think that that is "cool" or sounds good. Typical ricer mods besides those that I see on imports are black tail lights and plasti dipped rims. I love when I see a BMW or other real car just fly by a ricer who is trying to show off, ot makes my day! I could probably show them up without any upgrades, but I want to do a few just for quicker throttle response. I don't really care if I gain any HP or not. If I did I would put a few jegs stickers on and call it done.
My dad bought the jeep I have new in 1996. Same time I got my license. Oh, and same time "import tuning" got huge in California. A lot of my friends were huge in it, which brought me into it. My friend Kenny had a Honda del slow running 13.8 quarter naturally aspirated. Heavy *** car, his bro had a Honda crx running low 10's on street tires. I had an mx-6 that did 13.4 turbo'd. However, we spent a lot of time and all extra money on tuning. For the kids who just cut their springs, and throw fart cans on their exhaust pipe, since 1996 my jeep has Been eating them alive. Stock! Drag racing is 70% driver 30% car. Haha I remember making an old dude cry in front of his gfriend cuz his 350 chevy truck "got beat by my daddies jeep"
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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by greenxj21
I just hate all the ricers around me. They spend $$ on plastic kits and stupid mufflers that they think make them sound ba.
I don't like it either, lol. I think it's silly. But they enjoy it so what the heck. To each his own.
I had a pair of guys in a WRX do the rev-and-creep at the lights a few days back. I let' em go....Until I saw them high five each other over blowing me off. That tripped the normally well-suppressed "I-don't-think-so" response, lol. I was in my 383 C3 which seems to attract a lot of that stuff. Silly fools don't know what hit em still, I imagine.
I know where you're coming from...but an XJ really isn't the right vehicle unless you have big $$ to spend on it. It's a brick-shaped aerodynamically incorrect tractor-motored stump puller.
Tell 'em you'll race 'em right over there while pointing to the nearest mudhole.

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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by kennzz05
but to buy and own a hi performance car and never floor it seriously whats the point.
I'm not seeing one.
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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Radi

I don't like it either, lol. I think it's silly. But they enjoy it so what the heck. To each his own.
I had a pair of guys in a WRX do the rev-and-creep at the lights a few days back. I let' em go....Until I saw them high five each other over blowing me off. That tripped the normally well-suppressed "I-don't-think-so" response, lol. I was in my 383 C3. Seems to attract a lot of that stuff. Silly fools don't know what hit em still, I imagine.
I know where you're coming from...but an XJ really isn't the right vehicle unless you have big $$ to spend on it. It's a brick-shaped aerodynamically incorrect tractor-motored stump puller.
Tell 'em you'll race 'em right over there while pointing to the nearest mudhole.
Lol ya I should
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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by kennzz05

oh and car5car got to be the first person i ever heard of that owned a vette and never punched it. like whats the point
Hahaha so true there would be no point in that except being a boring *** driver
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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 02:01 AM
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You may find this article interesting, testing various mods for power/mileage increases:

http://www.jpmagazine.com/techarticl...ing_true_lies/


Summary:

Cold air intake: +5 to +10 HP
ECM changes: Don't bother
TB spacer: don't bother
62mm throttle body: +5HP
Hotter ignition: Don't bother
Cat back exhaust: +5 to +15
Header: +5 to +10
'99 up horseshoe intake on earlier year: 5hp loss (don't bother)

So...you already did most of the exhaust. Perhaps a good plan would be to remove the exhaust kink, then work on the air intake, throttle body and a good aftermarket header.

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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by greenxj21
I want to do a few just for quicker throttle response. I don't really care if I gain any HP or not. If I did I would put a few jegs stickers on and call it done.
Quicker throttle response depends on ratio "% of throttle opening/inch of pedal travel"
More powerful cars have smaller ratio
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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Bbasso
change the gear ratio?
Originally Posted by greenxj21
Doubt ill need to do that for 31s

Spending the money to regear will gain you more 'power' than any 100 dollar bolt on crap.

You have 31's. You complaining about power... This is a no-brainer.
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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by kennzz05

im totally not tryin to be a smart azz but theres lots of younger guys and gals on here and 100 bucks can be like half a paycheck to some of them. some of the other jeep sites like the srt site jeez them guys **** money and although i have an srt believe me im making payments and cant afford the mods i wanna do

oh and car5car got to be the first person i ever heard of that owned a vette and never punched it. like whats the point
100 is almost half my pay check per week.
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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 09:14 AM
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you can upgrade the injectors to some ev6 style 4 hole injectors from a dodge neon or a 5.0 mustang. I'm not sure with years they come from but a lot of people have done it. if you want more fuel you can home brew a MAP sensor adjuster

http://go.jeep-xj.info/HowtoMAPsensor.htm
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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by greenxj21

Ya I heard u gain some HP when doing that
Tons
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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 11:07 AM
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Gears may be half your paycheck now. But save the money you do have and put it toward them when you have the cash. Nothing else you do will have a serious effect like re-gearing.

The upwards slope on the "that Honda driver almost crapped his pants" line graph looks something like this /. You would be surprised. I had a 6cyl mustang long ago that I re-geared to 4.10 and put better intake and exhaust on. Made sure it looked as stock as you can with two exhaust pipes on a 6 banger.

I built it for no other reason than to go and antagonize GT mustangs of the same gen . If they were pretty well stock but dressed to the Autozone 9's then they were my favorite. A few asked me about it, I always responded "i don't know i just put a chip in it and wow!"

The 88 cherokee 4.0 I just purchased has a 4.10 swap in the rear from one of the previous owners. While 4x4 is completely useless to me until i swap the fronts it is pretty damned fast. It actually surprised the hell out of me (I have never owned but have driven a few cherokees) when I chirped into second and then third while trying to merge with albuquerque traffic.
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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by car5car
Quicker throttle response depends on ratio "% of throttle opening/inch of pedal travel"
More powerful cars have smaller ratio
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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 12:41 PM
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You can also gain back some hp by taking the trottle body off and cleaning that and the IAC really good with some throttlebody cleaner. They get carboned up over time and choke it. Use TB cleaner though carb cleaner is to harsh
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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by cleenrob
You can also gain back some hp by taking the trottle body off and cleaning that and the IAC really good with some throttlebody cleaner. They get carboned up over time and choke it. Use TB cleaner though carb cleaner is to harsh
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