My cherokee started a fire. Help
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From: corpus christi, texas
Year: 1999
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I remember reading an article somewhere years back that I remember it being a reputable source.... this came out and don't think they wanted to see it public...but anyhoo
That Chevrolet was having a serious issue with a model of transmission that went into several of their vehicles (trucks)... they were inhouse testing them for production and found that they would fail right around the 100k mark requiring a full rebuild.
They secretly went to Toyota and asked them if they sent them the technical plans would they build one for them. Toyota agreed. Built and sent the trans to Chevy.... they put it on their testing platform...and ran and ran it and could NOT get it to break.
They called Toyota up and asked them what did they do differently because it would not break after hundreds of thousands of simulated miles.
Toyota's response was.... We built it to your specifications.
There's the difference between Toyota quality and US automakers... it's not the design that was bad... it was in the process of how it was made that caused it to fail. In Japan for Toyota... if a part is made and not correct, it gets rejected. If a part in the US gets made for a vehicle, if it's not perfect but within tolerance it gets used. Toyota doesn't use that philosophy....
I'd say the end result it pretty clear. Toyota will spend the extra 5 bucks or whatever it takes to build a quality product.
That Chevrolet was having a serious issue with a model of transmission that went into several of their vehicles (trucks)... they were inhouse testing them for production and found that they would fail right around the 100k mark requiring a full rebuild.
They secretly went to Toyota and asked them if they sent them the technical plans would they build one for them. Toyota agreed. Built and sent the trans to Chevy.... they put it on their testing platform...and ran and ran it and could NOT get it to break.
They called Toyota up and asked them what did they do differently because it would not break after hundreds of thousands of simulated miles.
Toyota's response was.... We built it to your specifications.
There's the difference between Toyota quality and US automakers... it's not the design that was bad... it was in the process of how it was made that caused it to fail. In Japan for Toyota... if a part is made and not correct, it gets rejected. If a part in the US gets made for a vehicle, if it's not perfect but within tolerance it gets used. Toyota doesn't use that philosophy....
I'd say the end result it pretty clear. Toyota will spend the extra 5 bucks or whatever it takes to build a quality product.
that was Toyota of the old days. they are in the same boat as all the other manufacturers now
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Well that may be true in some respect...but it doesn't make me want to say screw it and go buy a Chevy Spark anytime soon either.
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an experienced mechanic told me the GM 4L30e trans is the same or very similar to an AW4/A340
I didnt think this was correct, but certainly wasnt going to argue with him
anyone know ?
I didnt think this was correct, but certainly wasnt going to argue with him
anyone know ?
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Aisin Warner is just a mispronunciation of its original name Asian warmer. The orient discovered years back by spinning this device they could create huge amounts of heat while reducing the power output of any engine coupled to the front of it.
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@ cruiser.... well that escalated fast.... I wouldn't think that slightly misspelling the manufacturer's name would warrant an HUA Syndrome diagnosis...but whatever....
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