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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 11:01 PM
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Tonight after work I noticed an odd electrical problem. While the heep was warming up before I take off I noticed that if I tried to roll down two windows (or all four) the engine rpm would drop about 100 rpm from idle and the volt gauge would drop to what I would say is the 10 volt mark.

Does this mean my Alt is weak and not charging 100% at idle or is the battery weak and in need of replacement?

This is a preliminary question before I have the Alt and battery bench tested, just wanted to know what direction I should be going in.

On a side note when coming to a stop, once I get below 15mph, the high idle drops and the engine feels like it wants to stall. If I release the brakes slightly while stopping it does not seem to do it as harsh. Is this a brake booster issue or more of a vacuum issue?

Thanks for reading this far.
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 11:11 PM
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If your alt is working right,this should not happen,you can take the battery out of the car while it running and will be fine,I would look at alt first.
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 11:33 PM
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I thought the alt as well, should be an easy swap. Time to price a replacement.
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 11:37 PM
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I know it is not for everyone,but I buy all mine from the jy,alt,starters,etc. $20,and why I am there I get a spare,I look for the best ones,just bought a starter that is almost new,just so I have a spare,i hate paying for new or rebuilt parts.
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 11:45 PM
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X 3 on the alternator. I have two other suggestions for you, though. Check your battery cables and alternator wiring at all connections for cleanliness and security. Also, I don't recommend disconnecting and removing the battery on any newer vehicle while it is running. I used to do this on my Pre 1970's Chevys all the time to test the alternator but, I tried it on a 1980 Toyota and the power spike fried the coil, ignition module and voltage regulator the instant I pulled the battery cable. With the XJ being a vehicle with electronic ignition and fuel injection, I think that would just be a really bad idea. Just my two cents. There are safer ways to troubleshoot.
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 11:53 PM
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No plans on pulling the cables while its running. I arc'd a starter with a wrench and about made work in my shorts.

I was thinking about a jy part. I have been using mypartshop.com and can find them for about $40 in my area. But thats for non u-pull type yards.

First thing in the morning I will go through all the cables and grounds. Get some new wire and redo most of it. Going to get the battery tested and replace if needed and track down a new/used alt.

Let you know how it goes.
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Old Dec 5, 2009 | 12:14 AM
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No plans on pulling the cables while its running. I arc'd a starter with a wrench and about made work in my shorts.

I was thinking about a jy part. I have been using mypartshop.com and can find them for about $40 in my area. But thats for non u-pull type yards.

First thing in the morning I will go through all the cables and grounds. Get some new wire and redo most of it. Going to get the battery tested and replace if needed and track down a new/used alt.

Let you know how it goes.
My statement about pulling the battery was to make a point that your car when running depends on the alt,I always use a dvom or snap on scanner for testing. If you have a dvom just see where the volts are,13,5 to 14 would be good,battery should be about 12.6,when not running.
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Old Dec 5, 2009 | 08:38 AM
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sorry dude man sounds like the alt. have fun fixing
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Old Dec 5, 2009 | 09:56 AM
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kind of stinks, because you have to go at it from the bottom up
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Old Dec 5, 2009 | 06:23 PM
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Pulley on the Alt was bad. Replaced Alt and the belt while I was in there. All is better now. Thanks guys!
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Old Dec 5, 2009 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by trs80
Pulley on the Alt was bad. Replaced Alt and the belt while I was in there. All is better now. Thanks guys!
Good deal
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