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Mileage rolled back? Does this pass the smell test?

Old 03-19-2012, 09:51 AM
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Hi.

I purchased my 2000 XJ in January.

It had 125k miles when I bought it.

I removed the ashtray to take it out and clean it, and found this:




Is this sticker from a different car? Has the mileage been rolled back on my car? Is there a way I can tell if it was rolled back? Thoughts? Opinions? Help?

Thanks.




Here is the report I found when the car was for sale on Ebay: (Note, it was not purchased off Ebay)
Report Run Date 2011-12-21 13:41:35.344 EST
Vehicle: 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport (1J4FF48S3YL233073)
Event date Location Odometer reading Data Source Details
05/24/2000 SOUTHFIELD, MI 17 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:131001450335)
05/24/2000 SOUTHFIELD, MI Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
10/20/2000 SOUTHFIELD, MI Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
10/19/2001 SOUTHFIELD, MI Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
10/22/2002 DETROIT, MI Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
10/27/2003 DETROIT, MI Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
01/07/2004 MI Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:164R0070864) (Leased Vehicle)
CORRECTED TITLE

01/19/2004 MI 38,400 Auto Auction REPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION
02/24/2004 OH 38,450 Auto Auction REPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION
03/04/2004 OH 38,400 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:3104273085)
03/10/2004 OH 38,450 Auto Auction REPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION AS DEALER VEHICLE
09/13/2004 OH 38,667 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:4400455313) (Lien Reported)
09/13/2004 OH Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
10/21/2004 OH Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:4400459910) (Lien Reported) CORRECTED TITLE
10/28/2004 HUNTINGTON, WV Accident Source ACCIDENT OR VEHICLE DAMAGE REPORTED: RIGHT FRONT CORNER
06/09/2005 SOUTH POINT, OH Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
03/22/2006 FREDERICK, MD 112,488 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:36613476) (Lien Reported) REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
03/31/2008 FREDERICK, MD Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
04/28/2010 FREDERICK, MD Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
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Does seem a little odd, 12K in almost 6yrs. but 60K in 7 months I doubt.
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unless the PCM was reflashed with in-correct mileage plug in a scan tool and read vehical information, if you have a decent tool that reads all the pids you can see PCM mileage.
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Agreed. Take it to a dealer and have them scan it. The scanner will tell you if the odometer andecm mileage match.
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i was going to say maybe the PCM was changed out.
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If it was, you'll never know if the mileage was rolled back or not
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Does the odometer reading get stored in the PCM? ?In the cluster? Or both?

If both, I will get a different number when I scan it, correct?

If in the PCM, and the PCM was swapped, the previous owner would need to mark off the true mileage as unknown before signing the back of the title, filling in the mileage, wuldn't he?
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most newer cars mileage is stored in the PCM and BCM if either fail they have to be reflashed by the dealer, the info that is programmed into them is whatever the person who had it reflashed says.
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A Carfax may also be helpful. Each time something is reported, it is entered into Carfax.
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Originally Posted by Phantom1
A Carfax may also be helpful. Each time something is reported, it is entered into Carfax.
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I know it's unlikely but if a vehicle has a new motor AND trans installed(not sure if xfer case applies to this) by a certified mechanic, they can legally reset the odometer. I would say it's a much better chance that the sticker is from a different vehicle. Most oil change places will not run a different oil weight than stock and 15w-40 is definitely not stock.
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Go to Jeep.com. In the owners section, after you put in the vin number, you can look up part of the service history on the vehicle. Mileage will be shown.
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the 15w-40 makes it look more like it's from a different vehicle
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Ok, I spoke to the service manager at dealer who did the service, but his records on that vehicle are old and no longer on record. He can't say if this vehicle was ever in for service, and certainly cannot provide the mileage this work may have been done at.

I like the idea of that weight oil never being used by the dealer and this sticker being from another vehicle.


Besides, I love my Jeep and if I found out she had 200k on her versus 125k, what would I really do about it anyways???
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