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Old Jun 14, 2020 | 08:26 PM
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Default For the love of all things holy, what is causing this sound?

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Sound is only audible when <15mph, mostly when braking which made me think it could be brake related, but I hear it sometimes rolling slow without brakes applied, just not as loud. Doesn't matter if I'm turning or headed straight.

Seems to be under front driver side floor area/isolated to the driver side wheel area, but I'm thinking it's drive train/dana 30 front diff related now after the following....

I have new:
- brake rotors and pads on both front wheels.
-Driver side axle shaft u joint replaced today,
-driver side wheel bearing/hub assembly,
-driver side knuckle (long story)
-entire new exhaust (not hitting cross member)
-not the diff breather tube smacking what it shouldn't

I was hopeful, but those pieces didn't fix it. My upper ball joint is tight on driver side, lower is a little loose. Same for tie rod end there. I haven't torn into the passenger side yet.

Speaking to someone who is entirely learning from the ground up how these Jeeps work, for dummies-- can you please help me isolate the noise? If we can troubleshoot it I'd be happy. When I lift the front and spin the wheels I can't produce the sound. It seems to be load dependent???

I've posted this before on FB XJ pages and it's crickets...

Thanks in advance!

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Old Jun 14, 2020 | 09:50 PM
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My 93 does the same thing. Im wondering if it may be the engine vibrating and it's a shot motor mount. Not sure.
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Old Jun 14, 2020 | 10:33 PM
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Did you leave that screwdriver rolling around inside the center console again vince?
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Old Jun 15, 2020 | 04:44 AM
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Jack it up on all fours and run it to see if it reveals itself.

How are you jacking up the front such that it is not load-dependent?

Tire out of round?

Do you have ABS?
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Old Jun 15, 2020 | 04:57 AM
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How long has it been doing this?
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Old Jun 15, 2020 | 06:18 AM
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Hi guys, thanks. Let's see.

-New motor mounts/trans mount three years ago
-No loose screwdrivers in center console
-Tires were new three years ago
-No ABS
-If I'm recalling correct been happening as long as I've owned it (3 years), and still after a lot of maintenance items, but only now finally starting to touch front steering/suspension stuff. I'll probably go ahead and replace pass axle ujoint and wheel bearing, if only for the sake of pairs and curiosity, I have the parts and know how now to get that done faster.

When I lift the front I mean to say jack stands on both sides of front axle to get both front tires off the ground. When I spin them by hand there's no sound I can tell, maybe theyre not going fast enough. If it would help to get all four off the ground and give it some gas/brake and have someone listen? I'm not familiar enough with the workings here. If I remove the front driveshaft would that help isolate? I can't think what might be wrong in the caliper to cause this. I did have a very wobbly brake pad but bent the clips out and it's snug now.

Keep ideas coming please.
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Old Jun 15, 2020 | 10:55 AM
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Now that you mention it, the center splines on the front driveshaft could be worn enough to throw off-center and cause a vibration, but just enough to feel it yet. Case in point, when I bought my 89 Chevy 4x4, the front shaft was behind the seat. When I put it on, it would shake the whole front end! I bought a replacement which cured the problem. Try taking your shaft out and see if the noise goes away.
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