!!!!!!!LOCKERS!!!!!!
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Year: 1999
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Why? The Aussie isn't nearly as strong as your full case ARB's.
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From: lakemary
Year: 1993
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full lockers> lunchboxes? selectibles? lol i guess i need to do alot more reaserch i guess. but ya i found lockers from 250 and uo and there cable lockers like ox's ill try and find the link agqin
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Yes, full case locker > lunch box locker. Full case lockers and selectable lockers are not always the same thing. A full case locker replaces the stock carrier and the ring gear bolts right up to it. ARB is a full case locker, and so is OX, and they both happen to be selectable. A Detroit is also a full case locker, but is not selectable.
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From: Leeds, Maine
Year: 1999
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Yeah, I guess I didn't word that so well. LOL
What I meant was the full case lockers are much stronger, so that should be a consideration. It does make a big difference.
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If I hadn't had one installed and found another for the front used, I don't think I would have bought everything new because of the cost. I more than likely would have bought Aussies.
Sorry for the confusion.
What I meant was the full case lockers are much stronger, so that should be a consideration. It does make a big difference.
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If I hadn't had one installed and found another for the front used, I don't think I would have bought everything new because of the cost. I more than likely would have bought Aussies.
Sorry for the confusion.
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From: Leeds, Maine
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Right. You can achieve that many ways. That was one of the first things I noticed on my maiden voyage. Mine crawls pretty well in 4lo & the tranny in low with 4.56 gears in the axles, but nothing like a couple of rigs I went with that had 4:1 terraflex lo conversions in the T-case. It's almost like the difference between wheeling in 4hi vs 4lo. It's all about the gears.
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Right. You can achieve that many ways. That was one of the first things I noticed on my maiden voyage. Mine crawls pretty well in 4lo & the tranny in low with 4.56 gears in the axles, but nothing like a couple of rigs I went with that had 4:1 terraflex lo conversions in the T-case. It's almost like the difference between wheeling in 4hi vs 4lo. It's all about the gears.
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From: lakemary
Year: 1993
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gotcha its all makin sense now. ya ill definately shell out the extra cash for better lockers because im going to be running 35's with 4:56's
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Twin-stick gives you the ability to engage or disengage the front or rear end independently of one another, as opposed to the NP231 which, when you put it in 4wd the front and rear are engaged simultaneously and there's no changing that. It's advantageous in rockcrawling competitions or extreme wheeling for doing front end digs, making tight turns, etc. Not really necessary on a DD/weekend warrior.
Ah, gotcha now.
Actually, the twin-stick feature itself has nothing to do with the T-case gears. It's just the ability to engage front and rear independently. But you are right about deeper gears being better for crawling and the 4:1 is a good example. TeraFlex also makes a nifty little kit called the Tera 2Lo kit, which I have in my T-case. It allows you to shift into low range, with only the rear end engaged. Great for coming down winding mountain dirt roads where 4wd is not needed, but where being in low range is wanted for better engine braking, allowing you to stay off the brake pedal more (unless you have a manual where gear selection is king).
Ah, gotcha now.
Actually, the twin-stick feature itself has nothing to do with the T-case gears. It's just the ability to engage front and rear independently. But you are right about deeper gears being better for crawling and the 4:1 is a good example. TeraFlex also makes a nifty little kit called the Tera 2Lo kit, which I have in my T-case. It allows you to shift into low range, with only the rear end engaged. Great for coming down winding mountain dirt roads where 4wd is not needed, but where being in low range is wanted for better engine braking, allowing you to stay off the brake pedal more (unless you have a manual where gear selection is king).
I didn't realize that, obviously. I was thinking the doublers worked in tandem for some reason. That makes sense now that you point it out.
One of the guys in the club has the 4:1 & 2Lo Teraflex conversion for his 231. I hope to see him wheel with it today.
Thanks for the knowledge!
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