Leaf bushing size/lift question - sagging
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From: Golden, CO
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
I have sagging problems with my Jeep. I can't have 4 people + 2 dogs in it without rubbing the rear over big bumps. So it is time for better leafs! They sag 1/2" with no weight in the Jeep.
I was going to get the HD stock leafs from quadratec to hopefully get a little lift out of it and save money. It does not come with bushings however. Are the stock bushings 1.25" and 1.5" like in this kit?
http://www.quadratec.com/products/16311_5503.htm
There is also a kit for bushings that are 1.5" and 1.5" for the main eye and shackle end. I don't know which one to get. I figured if I got poly bushings it would make the install easier because I won't have to press the bushings in.
Next question. I am hoping this lifts the rear 1 inch. After that I would probably get a MJ shackle for another 1 inch. I would just use coil spacers in the front to level it out. I know this has been asked a ton but will anything else need to be modified for a 2-2.5" lift. I currently have new Rancho RS5000 shocks on. Will I NEED longer sway bar links or anything fancy? Will it vibrate at all?
Thanks for the help!
I was going to get the HD stock leafs from quadratec to hopefully get a little lift out of it and save money. It does not come with bushings however. Are the stock bushings 1.25" and 1.5" like in this kit?
http://www.quadratec.com/products/16311_5503.htm
There is also a kit for bushings that are 1.5" and 1.5" for the main eye and shackle end. I don't know which one to get. I figured if I got poly bushings it would make the install easier because I won't have to press the bushings in.
Next question. I am hoping this lifts the rear 1 inch. After that I would probably get a MJ shackle for another 1 inch. I would just use coil spacers in the front to level it out. I know this has been asked a ton but will anything else need to be modified for a 2-2.5" lift. I currently have new Rancho RS5000 shocks on. Will I NEED longer sway bar links or anything fancy? Will it vibrate at all?
Thanks for the help!
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Whoops, forgot. 2000 XJ Sport. All stock except the Rancho RS500 shocks.
Here are the leafs I was going to get
http://www.quadratec.com/products/56010_11.htm
Here are the leafs I was going to get
http://www.quadratec.com/products/56010_11.htm
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Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
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I just put in Old Man Emu rear leafs, with 2 inch lift for pretty much the same problem...
2 kids, a stroller, my tools, and usually a bunch of other stuff.
It put the back end about 2 inches over stock height. I ordered the heavy duty version, which means they have a bottom spring that stops them from inverting.
As far as the bushings go, it cost me an extra 14$ for the bushing set, which came with multiple sizes. I used a rubber mallet to tap the bushings in place out on my driveway. I'm not sure where you heard that they had to be 'pressed' in.
Good luck, be sure to shop around for prices...
Postscript:
The hardest part was getting the old springs off. I agree with the PB blaster soaks, but if you live in the North (snow/salt areas) it might turn into a job. Be sure to do some research, on this and other sites.
2 kids, a stroller, my tools, and usually a bunch of other stuff.
It put the back end about 2 inches over stock height. I ordered the heavy duty version, which means they have a bottom spring that stops them from inverting.
As far as the bushings go, it cost me an extra 14$ for the bushing set, which came with multiple sizes. I used a rubber mallet to tap the bushings in place out on my driveway. I'm not sure where you heard that they had to be 'pressed' in.
Good luck, be sure to shop around for prices...
Postscript:
The hardest part was getting the old springs off. I agree with the PB blaster soaks, but if you live in the North (snow/salt areas) it might turn into a job. Be sure to do some research, on this and other sites.
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From: Golden, CO
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I was just assuming that if I bought OEM bushings that they would be rubber ones that would need to be "pressed" in. Usually poly bushings go in nice and easy so I thought it would be better to get those. I could be wrong about the OEM ones though.
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OEM leaf springs came in three spring rates, Std. duty, heavy duty, Off road or upcountry duty. Here's a site with your year Jeep listed. And the Mopar-Jeep parts catalog. In PDF format. Call your Mopar parts dealer to check prices. About $90 apiece last time I looked. Might be cheaper than Quadratrac. Get the Heavy duty if most the time your XJ is loaded up. Off road model will give you about 1" more than stock. (http://www.xjjeeps.com/tech_referenc...section=2&ID=0) And You would probably get more help in the future. If you filled out your profile, so the people trying to help you. Don't have to guess at what, Year, or model. And you don't have to type it, in to every question.......................................... ....................JMO!
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I just put in Old Man Emu rear leafs, with 2 inch lift for pretty much the same problem...
2 kids, a stroller, my tools, and usually a bunch of other stuff.
It put the back end about 2 inches over stock height. I ordered the heavy duty version, which means they have a bottom spring that stops them from inverting.
As far as the bushings go, it cost me an extra 14$ for the bushing set, which came with multiple sizes. I used a rubber mallet to tap the bushings in place out on my driveway. I'm not sure where you heard that they had to be 'pressed' in.
Good luck, be sure to shop around for prices...
2 kids, a stroller, my tools, and usually a bunch of other stuff.
It put the back end about 2 inches over stock height. I ordered the heavy duty version, which means they have a bottom spring that stops them from inverting.
As far as the bushings go, it cost me an extra 14$ for the bushing set, which came with multiple sizes. I used a rubber mallet to tap the bushings in place out on my driveway. I'm not sure where you heard that they had to be 'pressed' in.
Good luck, be sure to shop around for prices...
So with a 2" lift I don't need new shocks/swaybar link/TC drop or anything like that? Where did you order the OME 2" from. That might be my best bet.
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From: Detroit, Michigan
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The main reason I went for 2, other than to be a little unique is that you are not as likely to have all the resulting issues with driveshaft angle, replacing u-joints, lowering transfer cases, extending brakelines and changing steering components.
I think the main thing is what you are going to be using it for. If you are going rock climbing, the bigger the better. Here in michigan, I trail ride, ride around on the sand dunes, as well as use it for a daily driver. I also have 2 kids, so a 4 inch or more lift means they can't even climb in....
Plus, once you lift it 2 inches or momre, you can upgrade the tires a little. 30.5 or 31 inches. Which is also cool because you don't have to do any cutting to your body/fender guards.
In other words. You buy a 2 inch lift, and that's all you need.
You can save up for new tires and rims. Perhaps with a little more offset to widen out the wheel base, make it a little more stable, and look cooler.
Good- luck, hope this helped.
I think the main thing is what you are going to be using it for. If you are going rock climbing, the bigger the better. Here in michigan, I trail ride, ride around on the sand dunes, as well as use it for a daily driver. I also have 2 kids, so a 4 inch or more lift means they can't even climb in....
Plus, once you lift it 2 inches or momre, you can upgrade the tires a little. 30.5 or 31 inches. Which is also cool because you don't have to do any cutting to your body/fender guards.
In other words. You buy a 2 inch lift, and that's all you need.
You can save up for new tires and rims. Perhaps with a little more offset to widen out the wheel base, make it a little more stable, and look cooler.
Good- luck, hope this helped.
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