duncan807

ha so i have a question about h20 hybrid do u thing it works ? i think it would be grate but seems to good to be true getting 25mpg in a Cherokee and that's not a real number just an estimation.
any help would be gr8

KennyG

Sad to say, but if it sounds too good to be true... well, you get the point. I've read way too much technical write-ups debunking the whole water burning, separating the hydrogen molecules, etc... Seriously, a well tuned engine and good driving techniques will net the best fuel economy with zero chance of catostrophic side effects.

Gee oh Dee

Are you talking about a hydrogen powered Cherokee?

duncan807

i was talking about a hybride and it just sounds to good to be ture

duncan807

http://www.youtube.com/user/danieljs.../1/RVwMtTJ9N1Q

Gee oh Dee

According to this you don't separate them, steel plates create the atoms or something.

I call BS.

RusselltheRed

its very possible. and its really does create ignitable gas. about to try and make a system in a week or two. will update.

Lead Foot

I made one about 6 months back for kicks. It was fun. Used 2 7x7" pieces of plexiglass, 8 stainless steel light switch covers, and 10 viton 6"? o rings. Put a positive charge to the center plate and negative charge to the outer plates (or was it the other way around? dont remember) Anyways I netted somewhere around 2 litres a minute pure Hydrogen gas! Drew I think 18 amps. :/ It was fun to blow those 2 litre bottles up but never got into intense testing of the setup and effect on gas mileage. They say you need 1/2 litre per minute per cylinder to be effective.

I have no doubt that the Hydrogen gas is EXTREMELY combustable. That being said, there is more envolved then just releasing the gas into the intake. Dont forget that you will need to make or buy an adjustable map sensor to dial down the supplied gas since your HHO system will also be supplying fuel. Without this you will still be dumping in the same amount of gas and wont yeild and fuel mileage increase. SUPPOSEDLY the O2 sensor wont actually be able to detect the difference in the engine running rich (so it can trim back the gas) due to the supplied Hydrogen because Hydrogen burns so cleanly.

Beyond that I say it is defintely possible. There is a guy that has Vette running ONLY on Hydrogen. So have fun with it, do your research and be safe, dont blow yourself up.

Lead Foot

Just saw that this thread is over a year and 8 months old. lol

DFlintstone

Don't make my mistake and watch the whole 9 minutes. Of course if you could separate the "H", from the "02", you would be mostly interested in the Hydrogen. Dummy thinks more 02 is the goal. Not to say that separating H20 into hydrogen and oxygen wouldn't be sweet, but the earth's energy situation is not yet solved. Sun CAN do it...but right now, prying the h20 apart into hydrogen and oxygen takes more energy than you get when you let them come back together. It's not a "conspiracy" Yea they would if they could, but China, East Us whatever-astan Brazil.......BF Egypt...if it WAS possible, it would come out.

For 32 years the panels on my roof have been charging my batteries. I haven't gotten an electric bill since I was 18, in school. Powering this computer right now. Centralized power distribution works good for them. (all your checks pile up in the same place)

Bbasso

I get mpg:

Radi

When you have a moment, could you PM me some details on what you have? I've been toying with the idea of building a bit.....

And agreed on the Hydrogen. More energy in than back out. It isn't a conspiracy, just bad science.

mr white

How much were those solar panels and how much are the batteries?

DFlintstone

Sure Chuck, Id be glad to share..I DO have a sweet deal since my creek flows more when the sun is hiding out, but solar panel prices are really good, compared to the last few decades. Here Pacific Gas ans Electric saw that coming and installed meters that won't go backwards. There is no power available here anyway, but if there was I'd be spinning there meter back and getting a check.

DFlintstone

Last I checked Ebay, under $2 a watt, shipped. Maybe there are better deals with a bigger purchase. I use 220 amp/hr batteries (Trogan T-105) equivalent, I get for $100 each from Less Schuab in Brookings Ore. They also supply "my" golf course for there carts. Inverters, and charge controller prices have also "plummeted", since I "entered the game" in 1980.