Has anyone on the internet showed how to jack the front of the XJ?

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Aug 20, 2018 | 01:29 PM
  #91  
Quote: it seems very dangerous, since it will roll right off the flat jack plate.
axle tubes are welded to the dif, the part that rolls (spins your wheels) is inside.
Aug 20, 2018 | 01:44 PM
  #92  
This guy is amusing
Aug 20, 2018 | 02:50 PM
  #93  
[QUOTE=BimmerJeeper;3510096]Let's get something clear.
No one has tried to help me at all.
Just trolling and smug saying how easy it is.
Not one video or photo, as per the simple request, which means my point has been proven correct.
Go ahead and try to find just ONE post that tried to help and stay on topic.
/QUOTE]

You missed post #14. There is a photo of the Factory Service Manual page showing
the manufacturer's instructions for hoisting the Jeep. Locations for a floor jack are noted.
If you don't have your own FSM you can download one. If you need a link to one, send
me a PM.

Kind regards,
Bob Engelhart
Baptist Missionary in Africa
Aug 20, 2018 | 03:59 PM
  #94  
Quote: Cool, please post just one example that actually shows how and where to jack up the front.
I found this in 1 second of google searching. Not a 100% step by step but close enough that if you know how a car is constructed - you will have all the information you need. Which is literally only jacking points and jack stand location

All the information you need in life is not going to be completely laid out step A to Z. Sometimes you will need to do your own research AND extrapolate information to make a reasonably well informed decision.

All you had to do was google "Jeep XJ jacking points", look for a google image, and then locate those points on the vehicle and start raising the jack. If you are uncomfortable with jacking up the vehicle at this stage, you need to;
a) figure out why this jacking point is unsafe
b) where a safer jacking point is located
c) if jacking in this manner is inherently unsafe

If you do NOT do the above step for ANY REASON when raising ANY VEHICLE, you are setting yourself up for a really really bad day and an expensive ER bill. Literally every time you raise a vehicle to work on it, you will go through the above three steps even if you are doing it subconsciously. If you do not, you are 100% an idiot. For me and many gear-heads, I do it sub-consciously and might not even be thinking about it. Always remember to perform a through wiggle test before you commit to crawling under the vehicle, and 2 or even 3 redundancies is rarely overkill. This can be one of the wheels placed under the vehicle, another jack-stand, or the jack you originally used to raise the vehicle.

If any of this makes you uncomfortable, having a seasoned mechanic to consult with or work alongside is important. This type of stuff you learn by doing, and through adversity, but having a solid fundamental understanding of vehicle repair is important. Rusty bolts need to be finessed or they will snap. Unibody vehicles need different considerations than body-on-frame vehicles.

By using your deductive reasoning you would have figured out not only the jacking points on the Jeep Cherokee XJ platform, not only the placement of jack stands, not only the safest way to secure the vehicle in the air, but also would have gained more information about the XJ unibody system and how the chassis is architected.

My firm suggestion is to lease or finance a daily driver, $200 a month gets you a Corolla and such which is are all damn fine daily drivers. Then, if you have the desire to increase your skills as a mechanic - use your XJ to gain experience. Fix everything yourself and feel good when you mess something up because it is an opportunity to learn a huge amount. And you won't be stressed about getting to work on Monday when you hit a roadblock

And lastly, I don't know why I took the time to write this out - but a lot of your posts scream "I don't want to help myself, I want everyone to help me". No offense, but this forum isn't super active any more. Many basic threads unfortunately get skipped over, and as a result you need to do alot of research on your own and use it as an opportunity to ask targeted questions or extrapolate on your own and reverse engineer whatever it is your are working on. You gain a complete understanding of the engineering behind it, as well as all of the components and their relationships. It helps you make more intelligent diagnosis as well as finding a solution to a problem

Just my .02
Aug 20, 2018 | 04:07 PM
  #95  
Quote: I found this in 1 second of google searching. Not a 100% step by step but close enough that if you know how a car is constructed - you will have all the information you need. Which is literally only jacking points and jack stand location
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXJdt9r9PFw
I already posted that video back in the thread (which I also found in seconds) but it was ignored.
Aug 20, 2018 | 04:52 PM
  #96  
Bimmer, you are the ultimate troll.

Scrap the barnacle and move on...does us all a favor.

If you're too dense to find a jacking point on a solid axle high clearance vehicle, you shouldn't be allowed to even be near tools.

Good luck to you.
Aug 20, 2018 | 05:46 PM
  #97  
Quote: Ridiculous example that shows that working on an XJ is for experts and professionals only.
We had a troll on another forum that used to say exactly the same thing!

I actually met the guy, and he was a genius mechanic and inventor. Nearly every archived post of his has nuggets of pure gold

Problem was he continually stated (amongst other things) only a pro mechanic should work on brakes. He continually dissed highly expert owners

His manner became quite abusive, and (regretably) the admin banned him

You stated no-one has given the info you asked, but that is not correct. You also denied correct answers on a previous post, however I had posted the exact answer


Aug 20, 2018 | 07:42 PM
  #98  
Quote: We had a troll on another forum that used to say exactly the same thing!

I actually met the guy, and he was a genius mechanic and inventor. Nearly every archived post of his has nuggets of pure gold

Problem was he continually stated (amongst other things) only a pro mechanic should work on brakes. He continually dissed highly expert owners

His manner became quite abusive, and (regretably) the admin banned him

You stated no-one has given the info you asked, but that is not correct. You also denied correct answers on a previous post, however I had posted the exact answer
I would be willing to bet a large some of money this person probably has another account here and created this one just to troll because they have nothing else to do
Aug 20, 2018 | 07:59 PM
  #99  
Quote:


I would be willing to bet a large some of money this person probably has another account here and created this one just to troll because they have nothing else to do
I think he is waiting for some poor sap to actually go make a video of it and post it to youtube. I could only imagine how pizz my pants funny that would be if I was the one trolling and someone actually made a video over all this.

Heck I still got quite a few chuckles out of this one. lol
Aug 20, 2018 | 08:45 PM
  #100  
He has profiles on every jeep forum site and on other non jeep forum sites as well. So he is either a troll or he has multiple vehicles or works on others vehicles. Yet he has also done at least one write up that I remember which wasn’t so bad. Not sure what he is. Maybe just an attention *****.
Aug 20, 2018 | 08:58 PM
  #101  
Sweet ****ing Jebus this is STILL going???


Bimmer, when you have the scrapyard pick it up, im sure theyll let you watch how they hoist the front.

Otherwise just jack it up under the front pumpkin, throw jackstands under the axle tubes, set er down.

Done and done.

This goosechase thread reminds me of my old days of drunkdialing autozone, asking for a price on RX7 piston rings. LOL.
Aug 20, 2018 | 09:37 PM
  #102  
Quote: Sweet ****ing Jebus this is STILL going???


Bimmer, when you have the scrapyard pick it up, im sure theyll let you watch how they hoist the front.

Otherwise just jack it up under the front pumpkin, throw jackstands under the axle tubes, set er down.

Done and done.

This goosechase thread reminds me of my old days of drunkdialing autozone, asking for a price on RX7 piston rings. LOL.
dont you get it? He needs a visual how to... no one can provide it, just proves we are all lying because Lamborghinis even have one...not to mention theres not enough room for jackstands on the axle tube, plus it looks unsafe because the axle will slide off.....come on man, only post help if you have a video. Geeze
Aug 20, 2018 | 09:46 PM
  #103  
Aug 21, 2018 | 08:08 AM
  #104  
Quote: /QUOTE]

You missed post #14. There is a photo of the Factory Service Manual page showing
I saw that useless post. You actually call that helpful?
The photo was so small, all I saw was an outline of a car. I think.
Great example of only being useful to those who already know the answer.

Also, the XJ rusts like it's a Vega on the showroom floor
and jack points are probably all rusted out.
That is why I was looking to jack from the suspension.

Quote: I found this in 1 second of google searching.
nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXJdt9r9PFw
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I saw that idiotic video before starting this thread.
The guy is jacking using only the jack.
In fact, that video is exactly WHY I started this thread.
It's just shocking to me just how nonexistent correct XJ basic DIY information is.
Aug 21, 2018 | 08:10 AM
  #105  
Quote: dont you get it? He needs a visual how to... no one can provide it, just proves we are all lying because Lamborghinis even have one...not to mention theres not enough room for jackstands on the axle tube, plus it looks unsafe because the axle will slide off.....come on man, only post help if you have a video. Geeze
Thank you for getting it.