Good to bad.
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From: Burleson, Texas
Year: 1993
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0L
I think the worse thing about this is I just did a complete tune up - coil, cap, rotor, plug, wires and exhaust manifold. Then, not sure why, I put a 96+ intake manifold and steering pulley assembly on it - and at this point I don't even remember what the reason was for that except it sounded like a good idea at the time. I sure hope all of that wasn't a waste of $$.
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From: Nor-Cal Coast
Year: 90,84
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0,2.5
IIRC.,with the exception of the gauge/light sender moving from the rear of the head to the T-stat housing, (94-96?), heads and manifolds swap from 87 all the way to 99. (you do need to use the right manifold gasket for pre or post 90). 00 and 01 are different.
If your puter gets along with the sensors on your 96 manifold/TB, just guessing here, I bet it will be fine.
If your puter gets along with the sensors on your 96 manifold/TB, just guessing here, I bet it will be fine.
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From: Burleson, Texas
Year: 1993
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0L
That would be awesome! There is only one sensor on the 96 manifold and it moved over form the 93. The only check engine light I have is the one I had before starting an it is for a fuel injector issue. I think it is from the #2 injector because the wires just pull out of the connector. I bought new connectors to solder in place.
So from what I an getting in this thread and another where cruiser54 has been posting the engine will be a direct swap (not worried about the transmission) and I can still use my intake/exhaust manifolds that I currently have and I don't even have to worry about swapping the head.
Things are slightly looking up. Now to make sure I can look at the bottom end of the donor engine then make the 3hr drive to pick it up. Guy has been nice enough to drop the price to $500 for engine & transmission so that will help a bit. One last question, how you you support it to transport it for a 3 hour ride?
So from what I an getting in this thread and another where cruiser54 has been posting the engine will be a direct swap (not worried about the transmission) and I can still use my intake/exhaust manifolds that I currently have and I don't even have to worry about swapping the head.
Things are slightly looking up. Now to make sure I can look at the bottom end of the donor engine then make the 3hr drive to pick it up. Guy has been nice enough to drop the price to $500 for engine & transmission so that will help a bit. One last question, how you you support it to transport it for a 3 hour ride?
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From: Groton, MA
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
Engine: I6 4.0L
You can always pull the new tune-up parts and swap them to the new engine - then like DFlintstone said - most likely the manifolds from your engine will be usable. In the end between selling off the parts you don't need and all that, you won't have wasted much extra money.
There is a reason some folks say jeep stands for Just Empty Every Pocket.
... and there's definitely a reason so many folks still drive these old XJs anyway.
There is a reason some folks say jeep stands for Just Empty Every Pocket.
... and there's definitely a reason so many folks still drive these old XJs anyway.
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From: Burleson, Texas
Year: 1993
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0L
Tuning up the replacement wouldn't be a bad thing anyway. And I agree, selling some parts off might get me a couple hundred back - which will be nice.
Hadn't heard that JEEP acronym before, I don't think I like it!!!
Hadn't heard that JEEP acronym before, I don't think I like it!!!
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Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
Engine: I6 4.0L
So it's possible to spend a ton of money on a Jeep (especially if you're building it for wheeling purposes), but it's by no means a question of reliability.
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From: Burleson, Texas
Year: 1993
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0L
Got the replacement engine lined up and will have it home on Sunday. I have found one thing that might be an issue, the Jeep has 35" tires and a 6.5" lift. I have no idea if a regular engine hoist will go high enough to get the engine out. Leaves me two choices and I already have a feeling which way I will need to do this but thought I'd entertain both.
1) Remove front tires and put the front end on the ground, essentially dropping the front 10". Hopefully enough!
2) Unhook brake lines, pitman arm, shocks and control arms to roll the axle out and drop the engine out the bottom while Jeep is on 30" tall jack stands. Just not sure if the body side of the motor mounts are too difficult to remove.
I'm sure top side will be the choice I hear, maybe I can rent a cherry picker and lift it out with that and do the yard work in the same weekend! Yeah, ambitious.
1) Remove front tires and put the front end on the ground, essentially dropping the front 10". Hopefully enough!
2) Unhook brake lines, pitman arm, shocks and control arms to roll the axle out and drop the engine out the bottom while Jeep is on 30" tall jack stands. Just not sure if the body side of the motor mounts are too difficult to remove.
I'm sure top side will be the choice I hear, maybe I can rent a cherry picker and lift it out with that and do the yard work in the same weekend! Yeah, ambitious.
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If you can't get the engine high enough , just remove the front tires and set it as low as you can with out the rotors hitting the ground .
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From: Groton, MA
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
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The real pain with the bolts is getting at them, so replacing them is by no means a magic trick - you still need the 2 feet of extensions and aught to have a 2nd pair of hands to help keep the socket on and support the extensions.
Really the main reason I replaced mine was so I didn't have to worry about being able to find my E12 socket if I ever have to do the clutch again!
Really the main reason I replaced mine was so I didn't have to worry about being able to find my E12 socket if I ever have to do the clutch again!
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Ironically, when I drilled out the boogered up E12 on my TJ and pulled the tranny back, I was able to spin the rest of the bolt out by hand.
I remembered this when I did the clutch on my XJ and made sure to loosen those suckers up before even thinking about loosening the main bolts on the bellhousing.
I remembered this when I did the clutch on my XJ and made sure to loosen those suckers up before even thinking about loosening the main bolts on the bellhousing.
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From: Burleson, Texas
Year: 1993
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0L
Thanks for the tips on 3 E12 bolts - there always has to be something to make it more of a pain. I do have plenty of extensions, probably 5' worth if needed and a daughter to help keep the socket in place when the time comes.
I will also probably replace them just so all are the same in case there is a next time and I will loosen them first and put them in last during the process.
I see that conveniently nobody lives close enough to come have some fun doing this r&r though. Guess I'll have all the fun by myself.
Thanks again for all the help!!
I will also probably replace them just so all are the same in case there is a next time and I will loosen them first and put them in last during the process.
I see that conveniently nobody lives close enough to come have some fun doing this r&r though. Guess I'll have all the fun by myself.
Thanks again for all the help!!
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