Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here XJ (84-01)
All OEM related XJ specific tech. Examples, no start, general maintenance or anything that's stock.

Is this factory?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 12, 2012 | 12:57 PM
  #1  
XJ?2010's Avatar
Thread Starter
CF Veteran
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 2,914
Likes: 5
Year: 1987
Model: Comanche
Engine: I6 4.0L
Default Is this factory?

1987 Jeep Comanche MJ

Been having issues with my Alt. not charging my battery I've been told that this box is used for a dual battery setup. Anyone seen this before. I dont want to run 2 batteries so can i just remove it and run the wires to my battery?

Name:  IMG_0618.jpg
Views: 55
Size:  207.2 KB
Reply
Old Jun 12, 2012 | 06:05 PM
  #2  
XJ?2010's Avatar
Thread Starter
CF Veteran
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 2,914
Likes: 5
Year: 1987
Model: Comanche
Engine: I6 4.0L
Default

Anyone?
Reply
Old Jun 12, 2012 | 06:48 PM
  #3  
MechanicMatt's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 49
Likes: 0
From: Virginia
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

doesn't look factory to me. and I'm sure someone with more experience will chime in and show you a wiring diagram, but yeah you should be able to pull it out and run wiring from the alt to the battery.

ps. send that my way if u do remove it! haha
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2012 | 12:50 AM
  #4  
cruiser54's Avatar
::CF Moderator::
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 43,971
Likes: 1,579
From: Prescott, Az
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

Not factory.
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2012 | 01:17 AM
  #5  
odgreen's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 15,581
Likes: 8
From: some small town oregon
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

That's after market. It is for running 2 batteries. Ditch it and run yer wires.
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2012 | 07:23 AM
  #6  
XJ?2010's Avatar
Thread Starter
CF Veteran
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 2,914
Likes: 5
Year: 1987
Model: Comanche
Engine: I6 4.0L
Default

I suspected it was aftermarket. Thanks guys.
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2012 | 07:29 AM
  #7  
caged's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 7,874
Likes: 100
From: Northern Ontario, Canada
Year: 1990, 1999, 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

yeah, it looks like a battery isolator.

i'd find out what is missing, if it's just a battery, get one just like the one you have, hook it up and you're good for almost any electronic upgrade you want.
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2012 | 07:36 AM
  #8  
XJ?2010's Avatar
Thread Starter
CF Veteran
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 2,914
Likes: 5
Year: 1987
Model: Comanche
Engine: I6 4.0L
Default

It has a battery box in the bed used to power fans and a light in the bed cap. Im going to keep it and maybe eventually install it back but right now i just want to get it back on the road.
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2012 | 07:44 AM
  #9  
jtodaro's Avatar
Member
10 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 166
Likes: 0
From: Missouri
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by XJ?2010
It has a battery box in the bed used to power fans and a light in the bed cap. Im going to keep it and maybe eventually install it back but right now i just want to get it back on the road.
That is indeed a multi battery isolator, which should facilitate in charging BOTH batteries that are connected to it. With that being said, it looks older, and if you're not properly charging your main battery, I'd suggest you bypass it temp to see if this resolves your charging issue. if it does, then the battery isolator has most likely gone bad.
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2012 | 09:13 PM
  #10  
XJ?2010's Avatar
Thread Starter
CF Veteran
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 2,914
Likes: 5
Year: 1987
Model: Comanche
Engine: I6 4.0L
Default

alright removed that battery isolator today and connected the 3 leads to my battery terminal connecters. The black wire runs from the stud on back of the alt. im assuming thats a ground so i put it to the ground terminal. The 2 red wires, one from the main harness and the other from the alternator connecter that plugs into the back of the alt. I ran those both to the positive terminal connecter. I then started it up and it still wasnt charging. then I disconnected all the wires and used a multimeter to test if i was getting 14V at any of them...the ground no, wire from the alt connecter and the main harness positive had a ~12V.

Does this system have a voltage regulator? or is my alt. shot?
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2012 | 09:31 PM
  #11  
odgreen's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 15,581
Likes: 8
From: some small town oregon
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by XJ?2010
alright removed that battery isolator today and connected the 3 leads to my battery terminal connecters. The black wire runs from the stud on back of the alt. im assuming thats a ground so i put it to the ground terminal. The 2 red wires, one from the main harness and the other from the alternator connecter that plugs into the back of the alt. I ran those both to the positive terminal connecter. I then started it up and it still wasnt charging. then I disconnected all the wires and used a multimeter to test if i was getting 14V at any of them...the ground no, wire from the alt connecter and the main harness positive had a ~12V.

Does this system have a voltage regulator? or is my alt. shot?
Ummm 87 Manche? There internally regulated. The "stud" is your power wire the 2 smaller wires on your alt are for the ecu and regulator.
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2012 | 09:36 PM
  #12  
odgreen's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 15,581
Likes: 8
From: some small town oregon
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Name:  image-3003758769.jpg
Views: 108
Size:  25.2 KB

If by stud you mean that little 10mm gold nut. That's you + charging wire.
The other 2 wire plug at the top are the signal wires for indicator and ecu.
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2012 | 09:38 PM
  #13  
XJ?2010's Avatar
Thread Starter
CF Veteran
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 2,914
Likes: 5
Year: 1987
Model: Comanche
Engine: I6 4.0L
Default

Great... so When I tested that wire with the engine running it came up with 0 volts so i'd say the alt. is shot. I love PO janky *** wiring.
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2012 | 09:48 PM
  #14  
odgreen's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 15,581
Likes: 8
From: some small town oregon
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Or it could of been when you grounded it....
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2012 | 09:54 PM
  #15  
XJ?2010's Avatar
Thread Starter
CF Veteran
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 2,914
Likes: 5
Year: 1987
Model: Comanche
Engine: I6 4.0L
Default

Yup that did it im sure, thanks for your help. I'll pick up a new one and hook it up right.
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:15 PM.