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Old Apr 21, 2016 | 06:45 PM
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Hello all. I'm really not too knowledgeable when it comes to electrical. I've been trying to get my electric fan to work. I jumped the fan to the battery and it turns on. I tested the relay and it clicked but I bought a new one anyway. My friend lent me a test light. I'm not getting any power from the plug in? Bad wire somewhere in the harness? Suggestions are greatly appreciated.
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Old Apr 21, 2016 | 07:49 PM
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The electric fan should come on at 218.
I think you can unplug the temp sensor for the computer when the motor is hot and the electric fan should come on.
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Old Apr 21, 2016 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by MonacaYankee
The electric fan should come on at 218.
I think you can unplug the temp sensor for the computer when the motor is hot and the electric fan should come on.
And when ac is on correct? Still doesn't come on. And the temp sensor is the one on the thermostat housing right?
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Old Apr 22, 2016 | 07:14 AM
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And when ac is on correct? Still doesn't come on. And the temp sensor is the one on the thermostat housing right?

Right, but the AC doesn't have to be on. If you remove the coolant temp sensor connector with the ignition switch to RUN and the fan doesn't turn on, check the following:


Note that you will get a CHECK ENGINE light on when removing the temp sensor connector. Just clear the CEL by removing the battery negative post connector for about 5 minutes.

You could check the 40 Amp Maxi fuse in the PDC to see if it's blown. See pic.


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And check the #10 fuse in the Junction Block.


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Verify the pin cavities in the PDC for the fan relay aren't pushed down towards the inside of the PDC and make sure the pin cavities aren't corroded (black/green).




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Old Apr 22, 2016 | 07:23 AM
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are you trying to make an auxillary fan overide switch
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Old Apr 22, 2016 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by CCKen
Right, but the AC doesn't have to be on. If you remove the coolant temp sensor connector with the ignition switch to RUN and the fan doesn't turn on,

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If it does that means the sensor is bad?
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Old Apr 22, 2016 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by TealTornadoXJ
are you trying to make an auxillary fan overide switch
No I'm just trying to get the dang fan to work
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Originally Posted by Martlor13
If it does that means the sensor is bad?

No, it means the fan electrical system is working - PCM, relay, fuses, wiring, and fan.


With the connector removed the PCM sees a high voltage (greater than 4.98 volts - DTC P0118) caused by an open sensor ground circuit and/or an open sensor signal circuit, which in the mind of the PCM, would mean an extremely high temp signal from the temp sensor; thus it turns the radiator fan on.
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Old Apr 22, 2016 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by CCKen
No, it means the fan electrical system is working - PCM, relay, fuses, wiring, and fan.


With the connector removed the PCM sees a high voltage (greater than 4.98 volts - DTC P0118) caused by an open sensor ground circuit and/or an open sensor signal circuit, which in the mind of the PCM, would mean an extremely high temp signal from the temp sensor; thus it turns the radiator fan on.
Ok so nothing happened. The electric fan did not turn on with the sensor unplugged
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Old Apr 22, 2016 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Martlor13
Ok so nothing happened. The electric fan did not turn on with the sensor unplugged

Go back to post #4. Check the fuses and check the relay pin cavities in the PDC.
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Old Apr 23, 2016 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by CCKen
Go back to post #4. Check the fuses and check the relay pin cavities in the PDC.
Everything looks good. It just doesn't work haha
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Old Apr 23, 2016 | 04:13 PM
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Do you own a digital Volt/Ohmmeter (Multimeter)?


If not, and there's a Harbor Freight near you, go there and buy one.


Get the 11 function digital multimeter #61593 ($24.99). Do not buy the mickey mouse $5.99 meter.


A test light won't work for the following tests.


Refer to the diagram below.


Remove the radiator fan relay.


Connect the meter ground (-) lead to the battery negative post and use the meter positive probe for the tests.


Set the meter to 20 Volts DC.


With the ignition off/lock,


Touch relay pin cavity 10 - See 12 volts.


Touch pin cavity 14 - see .000 volts.


Touch pin cavity 13 - See .000 volts.


Touch pin cavity 11 - See .000 volts.


With the ignition switch to RUN/ON (engine not running),

Touch pin cavity 10 - See 12 volts. From the 40 Amp fuse in the PDC.


Touch pin cavity 14 - See .000 volts.


Touch pin cavity 13 - See approximately .070 volts (may be lower than .070, but you must see some voltage - select 2 volt scale on your meter if you see .000 volts)


Touch pin cavity 11 - See 12 volts. From fuse 10 in the JB.


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If you don't see some voltage at pin cavity 13 there's a possibility that the PCM driver is inop, or the wire from the PCM to pin cavity is open.


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