Dead thermostat out of the box?
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From: East Tennessee
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 242 cui
Just got more parts in for the radiator replacement. Gates 195 degree thermostat does not move when I pour boiling water on it. Will try again in morning, but I think it is dead.
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From: East Tennessee
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 242 cui
Got home from dinner and did a different method that I saw in a different video. Placed it in a glass dish, boiled water in a pan, poured the water over it and it still didn't move.
Method 2, but it is a 180:
Last edited by 318SixPack; Nov 8, 2019 at 08:01 PM.
Been known to happen.
One guy here said he went through 4 and finally the 5th one was good.
People will say only buy a Mopar one.
Then another guy posts that his Mopar one was bad out of the box.
I replaced mine when I first got my '00 about 6 years ago.
I used the cheap Napa one.
https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/MRD2...ndex=Universal
When I did my water pump awhile back I also bought a new thermostat housing too.
I bought a new thermostat, I think it was a Stant Superstat, but did not use it cause the Napa one still worked.
Was afraid of going through the "bad out of the box" scenario.
Go figure.
One guy here said he went through 4 and finally the 5th one was good.
People will say only buy a Mopar one.
Then another guy posts that his Mopar one was bad out of the box.
I replaced mine when I first got my '00 about 6 years ago.
I used the cheap Napa one.
https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/MRD2...ndex=Universal
When I did my water pump awhile back I also bought a new thermostat housing too.
I bought a new thermostat, I think it was a Stant Superstat, but did not use it cause the Napa one still worked.
Was afraid of going through the "bad out of the box" scenario.
Go figure.
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From: Hunt County Texas
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
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Been there done that. With both radiator caps and theromstats. Had a MOPAR radiator cap DOA. System wouldn't hold any pressure. NAPA one worked fine. Go figure. It's just luck of the draw. Any mass produced item will have defects.
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From: East Tennessee
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OK, will run by the dealer this AM and get one see how it tests.
Edit: Dealer could not get one until Tuesday, and it was $33. BTW, if you are in the Knoxville, TN area, Cogdill Dodge parts department opens at 7AM on Saturdays, not 9AM like their website indicates.
Went to O'Reilly, got a Murray brand 195 degree thermostat, $5.99 and it tested fine.
Now to let everything cool back off so I can get this done.
Edit: Dealer could not get one until Tuesday, and it was $33. BTW, if you are in the Knoxville, TN area, Cogdill Dodge parts department opens at 7AM on Saturdays, not 9AM like their website indicates.
Went to O'Reilly, got a Murray brand 195 degree thermostat, $5.99 and it tested fine.
Now to let everything cool back off so I can get this done.
Last edited by 318SixPack; Nov 9, 2019 at 09:38 AM. Reason: Followup
OK, will run by the dealer this AM and get one see how it tests.
Edit: Dealer could not get one until Tuesday, and it was $33. BTW, if you are in the Knoxville, TN area, Cogdill Dodge parts department opens at 7AM on Saturdays, not 9AM like their website indicates.
Went to O'Reilly, got a Murray brand 195 degree thermostat, $5.99 and it tested fine.
Now to let everything cool back off so I can get this done.
Edit: Dealer could not get one until Tuesday, and it was $33. BTW, if you are in the Knoxville, TN area, Cogdill Dodge parts department opens at 7AM on Saturdays, not 9AM like their website indicates.
Went to O'Reilly, got a Murray brand 195 degree thermostat, $5.99 and it tested fine.
Now to let everything cool back off so I can get this done.
At this point, if you were to add up all the money saved by avoiding the dealership I wouldn't even blink when I finally get a defective brand new part. Like mentioned above, any mass produced item is bound to have a failure eventually.
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I've had a bad brand new Stant brand thermostat. It would actually open at 160 even though it had 180 stamped on it. I forget what vehicle that was for.
Heard about bad thermostats for years it definitely happens
Heard about bad thermostats for years it definitely happens
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Year: 2000 XJ Sport & WJ Laredo
Model: Grand Cherokee (WJ)
Engine: 4.0L
Stant Superstats are designed to open slowly so the engine isn't subjected to a rush of cold water. I would assume a 180* would begin to crack open at 160*. I've used Stant for more years than I care to admit and only had 1 that hung fully open. AND they are only about $4.
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Stant Superstats are designed to open slowly so the engine isn't subjected to a rush of cold water. I would assume a 180* would begin to crack open at 160*. I've used Stant for more years than I care to admit and only had 1 that hung fully open. AND they are only about $4.
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