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Old 02-21-2011, 12:34 AM
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I was planning on getting a zj v8 tie rod tube from the junk yard so I bought two es3096l (.875" thread) TRE's

But now I have been looking up and see on the zj tie rod one end is not replaceable?

Like this


and the cherokee's is like this


Is this correct??

If so I bought an extra TRE for nothing...

*edit*
Well I know the zj rod is like that now... SO I did get an extra TRE for nothing.


IS THERE A TIE ROD TUBE THE RIGHT LENGTH FOR THE CHEROKEE THAT USES .875" THREAD TRE ON EACH END?

OR WHAT IS THE THICKNESS/LENGTH MAYBE I CAN HAVE A MACHINE SHOP MAKE ME ONE?

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Originally Posted by darknezz
I was planning on getting a zj v8 tie rod tube from the junk yard so I bought two es3096l (.875" thread) TRE's

But now I have been looking up and see on the zj tie rod one end is not replaceable?

Like this


and the cherokee's is like this


Is this correct??

If so I bought an extra TRE for nothing...

*edit*
Well I know the zj rod is like that now... SO I did get an extra TRE for nothing.

IS THERE A TIE ROD TUBE THE RIGHT LENGTH FOR THE CHEROKEE THAT USES .875" THREAD TRE ON EACH END?

OR WHAT IS THE THICKNESS/LENGTH MAYBE I CAN HAVE A MACHINE SHOP MAKE ME ONE?
I just finished this upgrade on my XJ. You need the drag link from the V8 ZJ (Like your top picture) (New #DS1312) and one of the tie rod ends you got (#ES3096) and the adjuster sleeve (#ES2079S) which is about 5" long. Those three pieces will replace the hollow adjuster sleeve and the 2 ends that are currently on the XJ. The other #ES3096 that you have can be used to replace the TR end at the pitman arm, or you can return it.
I hope that helps!

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I got a whole new drag link assembly so I cant use the other tre at the pitman.

It would be a real hassle to return it.

I really dont want to buy a new zj tie rod grrr

I'm gonna see what a local machine shop will charge me for a 1.25 x .25 7/8-18 female threaded piece of dom tubing the length I need, 35" I think.
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I got a whole new drag link assembly so I cant use the other tre at the pitman.

It would be a real hassle to return it.

I really dont want to buy a new zj tie rod grrr

I'm gonna see what a local machine shop will charge me for a 1.25 x .25 7/8-18 female threaded piece of dom tubing the length I need, 35" I think.
The only problems with that idea is:
1) The ES3096 you already have are 22MM-1.5 LH threads, not 7/8"-18.
2) You will have tie rod ends with left hand threads on both ends of the adjuster so you won't be able to adjust toe-in.

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crap.... i looked em up and it seemed thats what they were.

well whatever I'll just get a JY zj tie rod for now...

thanks!
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You do not have to replace the drag link. It's exactly the same as the one on an XJ.

The tie rod off the v8 zj is thicker and solid. The bar and passenger TRE are built as one piece. The adjusting sleeve and driver TRE are separate.

ES2079S Adjusting Sleve
ES3096L Short Tie Rod End
DS1312 Long Tie Rod End (aka the rod w/ TRE)

http://www.stu-offroad.com/steering/zjtie/tierod-1.htm

If you get the ZJ rod from a JY like I did, you can save the TRE and reuse it if you are careful when you take the rod off. The "boots" are replaceable, just cut off the old one and replace it with a new one. Energy suspension sells them (part # 9.13101R).
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