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Old Jan 5, 2017 | 11:57 AM
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hey everyone for starters I have a 1999 Jeep Cherokee classic. Bone stock. Basically I'm having a gauge cluster issue where none of my instruments want to work. I've had this issue before and cleaning the connectors worked on my old Cherokee. I sat on the computer for 3 hours yesterday looking at constant "clean the connectors and it worked" posts but it's not working for me. So far My check list includes battery terminals, ground off battery, firewall engine ground, tried another gauge cluster, cleaned conecters, swapped computers, and swapped air bag control modules. Nothing will get my guages to work. I tried testing them where you hold the miles reset and turn the key. The guages work when I do so but go right back to dead after the test. My odometer shows up and all the other lights work, but the gas, oil pressure, temp, tach, battery, and speedo do not. Any suggestions?
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Old Jan 5, 2017 | 12:56 PM
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I am having the same problem on my '01 Limited. Below is what I have tried to no avail. Hopefully we can get to the bottom of this.

- Preformed service bullitin 08-15- 99, replacing the connectors to the gauge cluster.

- Replaced Crankshaft position sensor

- Replaced Throttle position sensor

- Spark Plugs

Swapped out following known good parts from my '02 TJ

- oil pressure sender
- PCM (swapped from '02TJ and another '01 XJ)
- Ignition rail

Now, I also have another issue that I hope is related. When going down a steep hill sometimes the XJ will start sputtering. It will also sometime sputter right after startup/on the freeway during a long drive. Restarting fixes this issue.

Things I would like to check
- Trace remaining grounds and wire harnesses to check for any broken wires.
- Replace camshaft position sensor
- replace/clean MAP Sensor

Hope we can help each other out.
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Old Jan 5, 2017 | 01:18 PM
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hey everyone for starters I have a 1999 Jeep Cherokee classic. Bone stock. Basically I'm having a gauge cluster issue where none of my instruments want to work. I've had this issue before and cleaning the connectors worked on my old Cherokee. I sat on the computer for 3 hours yesterday looking at constant "clean the connectors and it worked" posts but it's not working for me. So far My check list includes battery terminals, ground off battery, firewall engine ground, tried another gauge cluster, cleaned conecters, swapped computers, and swapped air bag control modules. Nothing will get my guages to work. I tried testing them where you hold the miles reset and turn the key. The guages work when I do so but go right back to dead after the test. My odometer shows up and all the other lights work, but the gas, oil pressure, temp, tach, battery, and speedo do not. Any suggestions?

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Old Jan 5, 2017 | 02:54 PM
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CCKEN, Will go check this however both of our gauges complete the gauge cluster test, just do not function while driving. would a bad/corroded fuse cause this?
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Old Jan 5, 2017 | 03:56 PM
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I went through all the fuses including some under the hood just to see if anything would change but they are all good. I'm banging my head against the wall currently
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Old Jan 5, 2017 | 06:33 PM
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CCKEN, Will go check this however both of our gauges complete the gauge cluster test, just do not function while driving. would a bad/corroded fuse cause this?

It may. Pull it out and examine the pin cavities in the JB for corrosion. Replace the fuse for good measure.


The IOD fuse in the PDC feeds the instrument cluster as well, but you'd know if it were blown.
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Old Jan 5, 2017 | 07:19 PM
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on my 98 i get "check guages" and some dead guages. i turn key off, back on and so far they come back. is this connected with the problem here?
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Old Jan 5, 2017 | 11:27 PM
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Any suggestions on things to check? It sucks not being able to tell how fast I'm going haha
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Old Jan 6, 2017 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by CCKen
It may. Pull it out and examine the pin cavities in the JB for corrosion. Replace the fuse for good measure.


The IOD fuse in the PDC feeds the instrument cluster as well, but you'd know if it were blown.
I will check/replace the fuses.

I am also from time to time getting a NO BUS readout on the odometer. This thing is driving me nuts!
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Old Jan 6, 2017 | 09:45 AM
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I got no bus as well but once and it went away
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Old Jan 6, 2017 | 12:02 PM
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Has anyone tried searching for an answer.


https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/how-search-14306/


I've been involved in the instrument cluster inop/no bus threads so much I've lost interest in repeating what I've said.
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Old Jan 10, 2017 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by CCKen
Has anyone tried searching for an answer.


https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/how-search-14306/


I've been involved in the instrument cluster inop/no bus threads so much I've lost interest in repeating what I've said.
yes ive tried searching all over the internet. I'm not getting a no bus and Ive tried cleaning the conecters, swapping guages clusters, tracing wires, swapped computers, checked grounds on battery and fire wall to engine, swapped ccd's etc. i just can't get my guages to read. The guage test checks out fine. All the lights work, all the fuses are good. Just don't know what else to check and I'm tired of hearing "cleaned the connectors now it works" would you happen to have a wiring diagram of the connectors so I can see which are positive and negative so I can check them.
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Old Jan 10, 2017 | 12:50 PM
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Read thru this thread. It shows how to test the CCD Bus.


The instrument cluster must be installed for these tests.


It may not give you an absolute answer but at least it will eliminate some possible fault(s).


http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f11/n...uster-3960697/


Note that the OP of this thread was too lazy to follow up.
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Old Jan 10, 2017 | 03:21 PM
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today my 98 started right now first turn and

nothing was changed guages are fine??
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When I first started having issues with my gauge cluster, it seemed sporadic. Now, it doesn't work 99% of the time..
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