Changed plugs+wires, jeep idles very rough and major loss of power
Hey guys, I'm new to the forum and I just picked up my first Jeep yesterday for $700. I got the old plugs out and they were terrible. I put the new wires in and went to start it up and man this thing sounds terrible. I triple checked the wire order. When I was wrenching on it earlier my extention bridged the battery terminals and it shorted out. It still had power. Would that have something to do with it? I reset the battery and drove it a little bit to see if the computer would return to normal. Im not sure what the problem is.
If something goes to heck after I make changes, I undo the changes one by one until the problem goes away. New plugs, wires, etc aren't always good.
I'd pull the plugs and check them over, perhaps re-install the old ones temporarily. Swap the old wires back one by one, See what happens. That may not be it, but you'll at least rule it out.
Shorting the battery momentarily shouldn't hurt anything. Other than an arc mark on your wrench.
I'd pull the plugs and check them over, perhaps re-install the old ones temporarily. Swap the old wires back one by one, See what happens. That may not be it, but you'll at least rule it out.
Shorting the battery momentarily shouldn't hurt anything. Other than an arc mark on your wrench.
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Yea, Agreed^, with the addition, my dad, (the OSHA inspector), found that shorting it with a metal watch band can cause a nasty burn.
87-90 Renix jeeps defiantly wouldn't have a problem...your year and trans should be in your post. You should always check the new plugs....035. 153624 (clockwise), from 5:00, viewed from the side. A bunch of the diagrams in the books are wrong. #1 is here, on the yellow thing..
87-90 Renix jeeps defiantly wouldn't have a problem...your year and trans should be in your post. You should always check the new plugs....035. 153624 (clockwise), from 5:00, viewed from the side. A bunch of the diagrams in the books are wrong. #1 is here, on the yellow thing..
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What kind of plugs did you put in? And did you verify you had the gap correct?
Firing order is definitely suspect here too, as said above.
Firing order is definitely suspect here too, as said above.
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[QUOTE=DFlintstone;1854778]Yea, Agreed^, with the addition, my dad, (the OSHA inspector), found that shorting it with a metal watch band can cause a nasty burn.
Wedding ring shorted between solenoid and ground on a 24 volt military truck. Bad burn and vaporized half way through the ring.
I'm gonna jump on the firing order bandwagon just because I've seen it so many times.
Wedding ring shorted between solenoid and ground on a 24 volt military truck. Bad burn and vaporized half way through the ring.
I'm gonna jump on the firing order bandwagon just because I've seen it so many times.
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I agree with pretty much everything above, another thought, if the plugs and wires were in that bad of shape, did you check the cap and rotor as well??
Thanks for all the input guys. The plugs and wires were in rough shape and I'm surprised it actually ran. I did review the firing order in my Haynes manual and double checked that each wire clicked on the plug. Today I will just change the new back to the old one by one to see if I got a bad wire or something. The plugs I got were NGK and the wires are BWD from O'Reillys.
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Start the Jeep and pull one wire off at a time. Each time you remove a wire take note if the engine ran the same or worse than it had been running. If it runs worse with that wire removed then that wire is not the problem. You're looking for a wire that doesn't make a difference in the way that it runs.
Don't get shocked.
Also, are you sure it's the right rotor button? Is it seated properly?
Don't get shocked.
Also, are you sure it's the right rotor button? Is it seated properly?
I believe it is the correct rotor button. I never changed anything down there and it ran fine before. I seated the boots on the plugs firmly until they clicked like they are supposed to.
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Return the ngk's.
Install whats recommended by Jeep. I run champions in my 01.
Ive seen COUNTLESS people install incorrect spark plugs and cause a misfire situation.
Install whats recommended by Jeep. I run champions in my 01.
Ive seen COUNTLESS people install incorrect spark plugs and cause a misfire situation.
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Originally Posted by the buddmang
Return the ngk's.
Install whats recommended by Jeep. I run champions in my 01.
Ive seen COUNTLESS people install incorrect spark plugs and cause a misfire situation.
Install whats recommended by Jeep. I run champions in my 01.
Ive seen COUNTLESS people install incorrect spark plugs and cause a misfire situation.
NGK coppers will work very well if the gap is right and the firing order is correct.
From 87-99, they came with Champion coppers
From 00-01, NGK coppers
I put on the original plug wires and it still runs like crap. I have NGK plugs in it. My next step will be to get some champions and see if the plugs were the culprit. Thanks for all the input guys.


