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Old Jan 30, 2024 | 07:46 PM
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Default Changed Engine - when started, immediately skyrockets Rev to 3500 RPM and stays there

Good evening all,

I have a 1997 Jeep Cherokee Sport, 5-speed manual.

I recently did an engine swap over the last week as time allowed, the following video shows why, as it turns out, it sounded like top-end, rebuilt it from head up, including head, only to discover shortly after completion of that, the wrist pin in cylinder 5 was radiating noise through the engine, that broke, sending that rod through the side of the engine block.
https://www.jeepforum.com/threads/wh...noise.4480019/

I bought a new (to me) engine, here, https://www.ebay.com/itm/386303332848, I installed it, and now the RPM skyrockets at start to 3500 RPM and stays there. As far as I know, I have no vacuum nor air leaks, though this may say otherwise. This happens even with both throttle cables (foot pedal and cruise control) disconnected.

This has been a 3-month process, from vehicle stopping with Rod through the side of the engine block, to finding a new engine, to shipping, to time available to install (took a week wiht my limited time to get after it in between other things. This is my only vehicle and has been parked for 3 months.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Potential causes?

Thank you!

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Old Jan 30, 2024 | 07:53 PM
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I'm betting the intake manifold isn't sitting right and you actually have a big vacuum leak.
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Old Jan 30, 2024 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by lawsoncl
I'm betting the intake manifold isn't sitting right and you actually have a big vacuum leak.
Possibly, I did find this: https://wranglertjforum.com/threads/...en-loop.30631/ and this: https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/idl...tartup-219309/

Wranglers (TJ's) and Cherokees (XJ's) share the same engine in my year (1997).

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Old Jan 30, 2024 | 09:41 PM
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I'll guarantee that intake manifold isn't fully seated and is hanging on a dowel pin.
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Old Jan 30, 2024 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
I'll guarantee that intake manifold isn't fully seated and is hanging on a dowel pin.
I hope to check sometime tomorrow and report back that it's fixed, with this.
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Old Jan 30, 2024 | 09:59 PM
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Been there, done that on the manifold not on the dowels. The last time I had this problem, the dowels seemed to be pushed too far in and made placement difficult. I measured the distance that the top of the manifold should be fromt he top of the head and made sure it was aligned right before tightening it all down.
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Old Jan 31, 2024 | 01:46 PM
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As a few have said, but just to add to the likelihood, check your intake manifold. When I replaced my freeze-plugs a few years back and had the intake/exhaust off I was really surprised how easy it was to have the intake manifold not seated correctly.
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Old Jan 31, 2024 | 07:56 PM
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Its quite a good idea to try and slip a feeler gauge in under some things that are supposed to be mated together

If one will slip in, you instantly know to go back a step

This has saved me quite a few times

The last time, my Jeep XJ LH front engine mount has dropped a nut, things seemed weird, and I could slip a .015" gauge in under the mount, so I knew there was a problem, I will relieve pressure with a jack and. and whatever else it takes to make it all good, as soon as my back stops aching from yesterdays efforts
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Old Feb 4, 2024 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by AdkMtnGuy
I hope to check sometime tomorrow and report back that it's fixed, with this.
This is exactly what it was. Uninstalled and reinstalled properly, all good.

This engine has a rod knock too.....gonna have to tear apart the lower half of the engine, maybe combine parts with the old engine to see if I can build a complete engine.
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Old Feb 4, 2024 | 05:29 PM
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What kind of intake manifold gasket did you use? The cheap ones don't seal right and cause that, use a Fel Pro gasket.
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No gasket is gonna seal if the intake manifold is being held away from the head due to hanging on a dowel pin.
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