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Old 03-31-2009, 12:56 PM
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Whats the best oil and oil filter to use in a 1999 Jeep Cherokee Classic?
I (stupidly) went ahead and bought a Fram oil filter and 5 qts of Castrol GTX 10w-30, even though i didnt know what i needed.(hey my brother can use it if i cant) Can anyone tell me if this stuff is good to use? and any1 know what type of fram filter i need, I got a PH16, but im not sure.....
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that castrol is fine, but you need 6 to 6 1/2 qts. fram filters are junk.

i only recomend wix, which are also sold by napa as napa gold filter, or carquest blue.
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yeah, you need more oil,
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I've had good luck with the Mopar filters and I usually use castrol for oil as well.
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I was a big Fram guy for a long time with all my cars and trucks...then I went to Ford Motorcraft for my fords with motorcraft oil too. Castrol in everything else...now...I am doing anything but fram oil filters. Lately its been STP air and oil filters and Castrol or Valvoline dino oil(synthetic in my G35).
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Originally Posted by jpdocdave
that castrol is fine, but you need 6 to 6 1/2 qts. fram filters are junk.

i only recomend wix, which are also sold by napa as napa gold filter, or carquest blue.
x2. Don't use Fram unless you absolutely have to.
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I have used fram and it did the job but most say dont right now I'm runnig Mopar filter
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WHY are fram fitlers so bad?
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WHY are fram fitlers so bad?
They had some come apart.
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And they use mostly cardboard as a filter element whereas wix (napa gold) and the more expensive filters out there use an actual filter element that is reinforced with metal, and anti-drainback valves that actually provide anti-drainback. Pretty much if you pick up a fram in one hand and a wix etc in the other, you will feel the weight difference and that translates into better overall quality. Even the housing feels flimsy on frams.
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i have always liked Mobil one and k@n filters. but that is just me i guess
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And they use mostly cardboard as a filter element whereas wix (napa gold) and the more expensive filters out there use an actual filter element that is reinforced with metal, and anti-drainback valves that actually provide anti-drainback. Pretty much if you pick up a fram in one hand and a wix etc in the other, you will feel the weight difference and that translates into better overall quality. Even the housing feels flimsy on frams.
  • 1st the filter element is not card board, there is a a card bard disk in some of there filters.
  • 2nd not all of there filters have card board in them, there is one filter that does not, i want to say it is the tough guard off the top of my head but dotn quote me on it
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^^^^ yeah it is the tough guards i have one from the last change that i tore apart and i found no card board any where just the same filter most others use
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Originally Posted by xer0
  • 1st the filter element is not card board, there is a a card bard disk in some of there filters.
  • 2nd not all of there filters have card board in them, there is one filter that does not, i want to say it is the tough guard off the top of my head but dotn quote me on it
i have the link for all kinds of great filter info at home, i've posted it before. with that info they disected and inspected different fram filters and found no difference between the regular and more expensive fram filters. a hoax if you ask me, charging more for the same filter with different paint

i did bring up the wix filters, which i said i only recomend, but i've been buying mopar filters at walmart lately. (our filter is the only mopar my walmart has) and they have been fine.
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Originally Posted by xer0
  • 1st the filter element is not card board, there is a a card bard disk in some of there filters.
  • 2nd not all of there filters have card board in them, there is one filter that does not, i want to say it is the tough guard off the top of my head but dotn quote me on it
Sorry for generalizing but if you were to take a fram and cut it in half and take a wix and cut it in half then compare, you'd see a huge difference in quality. Over on NAXJA there's a huge debate where someone did this and took pics. And yes, I was talking about the fun of the mill Fram. They do have their tough guard and high mileage filters and I have not seen the inside of them so I cannot comment. I have worked as an automotive mechanic for the past 7 years and from my experience, I wouldn't use Fram on my vehicle when you could spend a couple extra bucks and get a Wix.


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