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Old Apr 3, 2012 | 06:32 PM
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Shoots the crap out of the old wives tale that changing fluid and filters on old trannies is a death wish, huh?

Glad you found it.
Old Apr 3, 2012 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
Shoots the crap out of the old wives tale that changing fluid and filters on old trannies is a death wish, huh?

Glad you found it.
Yeah, very bizarre though. I wonder how many people that had this issue after a filter change were just the victim of a poorly seated filter seal.
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
Shoots the crap out of the old wives tale that changing fluid and filters on old trannies is a death wish, huh?

Glad you found it.
yeah because some random douche on a forum knows more than my trans guy. glad you found the problem, but i would still avoid changing the fluid on a trans with that many miles
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My thoughts exactly, Dan. What brand filter if I may ask?

And which one of us is a random douche?

Is this another case of those who haven't done something telling those of us who have done something, that it can't be done?

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Oh also, I forgot to mention that when I was checking for the trans fuse (found it) I found a weird little jumper from a yellow wire to a blue/red wire If I recall correctly. Some PO must've done it, a ****ing paperclip with plastic tubing slipped over it. I've no idea why it's there, I'll get a pic soon and maybe someone will know? lol
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
My thoughts exactly, Dan. What brand filter if I may ask?
The brand is Pro-King
Old Apr 3, 2012 | 06:48 PM
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Not servicing the tranny with high miles is hilarious, I bet thats the same guy that puts the sawdust in the tranny! I service my aw4 with 318k regularly, and I abuse it, it works like a dream!
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Originally Posted by Dan91
The brand is Pro-King
Not that it would matter that much. Cruiser would know better, but I always put wix in mine.
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Originally Posted by Dan91
Oh also, I forgot to mention that when I was checking for the trans fuse (found it) I found a weird little jumper from a yellow wire to a blue/red wire If I recall correctly. Some PO must've done it, a ****ing paperclip with plastic tubing slipped over it. I've no idea why it's there, I'll get a pic soon and maybe someone will know? lol
Actually the wire deal may be OEM. Looks like an un-shrunk piece of shrink tubing over a hard peice of wire folded in half as a jumper?
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OK so here's the weird paperclip jumper in the TCU wiring loom, it's yellow and blue-yellow.
AW4 slips after fluid/filter change-zigdu.jpg
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Normal. Just saw it a week ago when I modified both our Jeeps so I could unlock the torque converter with a switch.
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
Normal. Just saw it a week ago when I modified both our Jeeps so I could unlock the torque converter with a switch.
Haha, I just read your post above the pic too. Seems sorta odd for an OEM thing lol. There was just tons and tons of screwed up/poorly done wiring on this Jeep when I got it so that's where my mind went at first. Glad to know it's normal lol.
Old Apr 3, 2012 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Trev1006
Not servicing the tranny with high miles is hilarious, I bet thats the same guy that puts the sawdust in the tranny! I service my aw4 with 318k regularly, and I abuse it, it works like a dream!

its no funny when it happens to you, not sure why but it does happen when people flush and fill high mileage trannys, does it always happen, no, but i does happen sometimes. happen to me once and happen to my dad on his chevy lumina years ago. it was enough to make me not do it anymore unless it has been done on a regular basis since before 50k miles. its just my rule, but its not a myth just not a always going to happen thing.
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Originally Posted by bnkk

its no funny when it happens to you, not sure why but it does happen when people flush and fill high mileage trannys, does it always happen, no, but i does happen sometimes. happen to me once and happen to my dad on his chevy lumina years ago. it was enough to make me not do it anymore unless it has been done on a regular basis since before 50k miles. its just my rule, but its not a myth just not a always going to happen thing.
If servicing the trans correctly makes other problems, I'm sorry, but you have other problems internally.
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It causes seals to fail sometimes thats where the failures happen im not going to argue it anymore ive seen it firsthand same with switching a high mileage engine to synthetic, because of the chance of old seal and gasket failure they recomend blends if switching at all. Mighy only happen 1 out of 100 but it does happen. The sludge build up on the seals gets removed by the fresh detergents in your old oil. Thats the therory and i believe it.

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