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If camber is 1.0 degree out you bring it back 0.5 correct bringing top in also pushes bottom out ?

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Is that a question or statement?
Sorry, I didn't understand.
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Originally Posted by car5car
Is that a question or statement?
Sorry, I didn't understand.
X2

Either way though, unless you've put aftermarket ball joints that are off center, there is NO adjustment for camber on XJ's. All you can do is adjust caster and toe.
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Originally Posted by car5car
Is that a question or statement?
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Its a question....
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Originally Posted by Northwoods Snowman
X2

Either way though, unless you've put aftermarket ball joints that are off center, there is NO adjustment for camber on XJ's. All you can do is adjust caster and toe.
Not thru the axle no
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Originally Posted by freegdr
Not thru the axle no
What?

I have no idea what you're trying to do, but if it's 1.0 degrees out you need to adjust 1.0 degrees. If you were talking linear measurements to either side of the rim then you would split the difference but when talking angles the center line of the wheel does not change.
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Originally Posted by freegdr
If camber is 1.0 degree out you bring it back 0.5 correct bringing top in also pushes bottom out ?
a couple questions, are you starting with negative or positive camber; and how exactly are you going about changing it?

if your camber is (-)1.0 you would bring it to (-) .5 by pushing the top out and the bottom in.

if your camber is +1.0 then you would bring it to +.5 by pushing the top in and the bottom out.

but that is assuming the actual point of adjustment is near the wheel centerline.
if it was a 911 for example, with the front camber adjustment located up high at the strut tower mount, correcting negative camber would bring the top out but the bottom would stay pretty much where its at.

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Maybe car5car will chime in with his infinite alignment knowledge.
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Originally Posted by sthon
Maybe car5car will chime in with his infinite alignment knowledge.
I don't understand his question, some commas would probably help.
There are many smart mechanics here.
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Originally Posted by rompnXJ
a couple questions, are you starting with negative or positive camber; and how exactly are you going about changing it?

if your camber is (-)1.0 you would bring it to (-) .5 by pushing the top out and the bottom in.

if your camber is +1.0 then you would bring it to +.5 by pushing the top in and the bottom out.

but that is assuming the actual point of adjustment is near the wheel centerline.
if it was a 911 for example, with the front camber adjustment located up high at the strut tower mount, correcting negative camber would bring the top out but the bottom would stay pretty much where its at.
In or out you half what you have and it brings it to 0 or you move the whole 1 deg ..to get 0
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Originally Posted by car5car
I don't understand his question, some commas would probably help.
There are many smart mechanics here.
,,,,,,,,,,,, that better lol
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Originally Posted by freegdr
In or out you half what you have and it brings it to 0 or you move the whole 1 deg ..to get 0
well lets say right now, your left front wheel has -1.0 degrees of camber. the top of the wheel is closer to the body and the bottom of the wheel is farther from the body. if you wanted to bring that to 0, you would have to move the entire 1 degree. you would do that by bringing the top of the wheel farther away and the bottom closer.

im not sure if you're measuring on a rack or with an angle gauge, but if you put it on a rack you'll see that very rarely does a manufacturer ever specify a dead flat 0.0 degrees of camber, it's usually set around -.3 or -.5 because a small amount of negative camber promotes more predictable handling. i hope that helps

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Originally Posted by rompnXJ
well lets say right now, your left front wheel has -1.0 degrees of camber. the top of the wheel is closer to the body and the bottom of the wheel is farther from the body. if you wanted to bring that to 0, you would have to move the entire 1 degree. you would do that by bringing the top of the wheel farther away and the bottom closer.

im not sure if you're measuring on a rack or with an angle gauge, but if you put it on a rack you'll see that very rarely does a manufacturer ever specify a dead flat 0.0 degrees of camber, it's usually set around -.3 or -.5 because a small amount of negative camber promotes more predictable handling. i hope that helps
yes thats the answer i was looking for . That - camber would be set from factory assembling 4x4 solid front axle correct.?
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well yes, but the only way that the manufacturer sets the camber from the factory is by making sure the axle they installed isnt bent lol

i cant think of anyway to adjust camber on a solid axle that doesnt involve a torch and a BFH haha. maybe some sort of aftermarket adjustable balljoint setup ?? how are you adjusting it

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I once put two screws in a wooden level, 14 inches apart. (to contact the K car rim), one out 5/16 inch from the other, to set the 5/16 inch negative camber. (top in).

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