It's mostly dead. But mostly dead is slightly alive! Who knows the movie quote? haha all true

 

never met any wheel stud could resist my Sidchrome 3/4" drive bar, and a 6ft long pipe.

thats how I found out US WWII Army trucks had LH wheel nuts (on the LH side).. broke a lug right out of those big wheels

got so ****ty with my tyre provider, I used to take my torque wrench and redo everything in their carpark

 

It actually isn't my tools. I have plenty of torque and leverage and all that...the lugs just stripped out completely. How do you torque out a dam circle?

 

[QUOTE=DCWinterXJ;3568460]It actually isn't my tools. I have plenty of torque and leverage and all that...the lugs just stripped out completely. How do you torque out a dam circle?
Also LH lugs usually have an L stamped in the center of the bolt so you know which way to go...guess you had no L

 

Hey brother where can I get those extractor sockets and what size do you recommend? My stock lugs were 3/4 but who knows at this point! Maybe down to 19 or 18 MM...yes I switched to metric...lemme know I could look em up but I want get good ones so I would prefer to know your source or recommendation!

 

Actually Craftsmen work fine. When you buy a set, some of them are not complete and have nests in the box for the sizes that are missing. Be sure you buy a complete set. My set goes from 1/4 thread nut size to 1/2 thread nut size. Your thread size is 1/2-20, so the largest socket would fit that standard nut size (3/4) and if it's spun down should still work, or the next size down should.

You know, it's possible his impact gun spun them so fast that if they were dry, may have gauld up the threads so they are seized now. How do the threads look on the ones you got off? A little bit of antiseize goes a long way.

As far as drills go, buy Morse or Cleveland twist drills. These are industrial quality and worth every penny. Titanium coatings are just to make poor quality metal look good, not perform better. Also drill and tapping oil should be used to keep the drill cool. Actually titanium coated drills were designed for CNC machining of aluminum so the chips don't stick to the drills. KEEP THE SPEED DOWN!

 

Ugh I miss my Sears. Where do they sell craftsmen now? I think it is lowes....I am not going to kmart...although it might be cheaper...but the kmart is a ****hole and probably wont have it....I guess I will google it Thanks Dave. Do you think it will work or just shred the lug nuts more?

 

Don't use an impact with them. Just a pressure on them until they start to bite, then use a long bar or added pipe. The reason I bought them was I had those same Mopar nuts on my WJ when I bought it and they came off with an impact the FIRST time, but the shells loosened up and some of them stuck in the socket. Now I had nuts with a smaller size that were hollow and the next time I went to remove them , they collapsed and distorted. The damaged nut sockets removed them and I bought a set of solid Gorilla Nutz and they are so old they are starting to rust where the chrome is chipped, but still come off easily. I don't think I've used those sockets more than a couple of times since then. I have the Timberline aluminum wheels where the nuts are deeply recessed.

Just Google "Craftsmen" and see what comes up. Lowes, Ace Hardware, Amazon, Menards, Blain's Farm & Fleet, Atwoods Ranch & Home.

 

I've never had a lugnut so tight like that, but my gut tells me that with those extractors, a good breaker bar and a long piece of pipe for an extension, you should be able to get them off.

Speed is not always the key with the impact and especially with the drill. Also, don't start with a 1/2 inch bit. Start with 3/16 and work your way up. 1/4, 5/16, 3/8, 7/16, and finally 1/2 inch.

Is it worth it to go this crazy when all you are trying to get are the calipers? My advice, sell it for parts or scrap. Or have it towed to the mechanic. He may even be able to recommend a towing guy who will give you a break.

 

I'd probably go with 19mm but it really would depend how much material was lost when they rounded. As for where to get them, I could only suggest Amazon. Being in the UK I have no idea who sells what over there. I can say the one we have does a great job.

 

Actually it is a bit more than that. I have decent treaded wranglers on those rims and I wanted to put them on my ZJ. I did the rears no problem and they look awesome. Also the calipers are brand new powder coated red with new carbon Pads and slotted rotors...with about zero use on them. SO yes I want all of that off this jeep. Whatever has to be done. Extractor set is next...

 

If you don't give a crap about the rims, you can take a cutting torch to them.

I had 2 such nuts on my old TJ. The tire shops I took it to (yes, multiple) couldn't get them off and then one of them took a plasma torch to it and damaged the rim - still didn't come off.

I ended up drilling them out. Go buy a new set of high quality cobalt bits, oil them liberally and go slow from smaller up to larger and eventually they'll come off. If you don't care about damaging the rims it's even easier.

Slow is better when drilling hardened metal. New bits (not re-sharpened old ones) will make a huge difference. Expect to burn through a set or two of bits and to spend a lot of time drilling.

The better you center the first hole, the better the end result will be.

It took me basically 6 hours to drill out 2. I'm a lot better with a drill these days than I was at the time, but it's not a quick or easy job.

 

Well I have 4 lugnuts stuck on there so the extractor set is next. I don't want to damage the rims. I like the look of them and want to put them on my ZJ. That would be a lot of drilling. I just ordered craftsman and rocketsocket extractors from Amazon. I can only hope they will do the trick. If I have to drill because the extractors fail...I guess that is next. Never been through anything like this and I have had many many vehicles...not a single lug nut did this to me let alone 4! And I have not touched the passenger front tire yet. I am soaking those with pb blaster and I don't even know if I wanna use my big impact gun on that side...it may be too much. But if they are fresh it might be the way to go. Thanks for the advice!

 

For what its worth, I would never use those extractor sockets with an impact gun. From my past experience, all they do is round the lugs off. If you use it with a breaker bar, I have had much better luck.

 

Yes i will be using the breaker bar for sure. I can only hope they do the trick. Thanks for the tip!