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Old Oct 31, 2011 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by eugnton
Never ever ever ever use PT on flat hard roads. Per the manual, it should be used in times where there will be wheel slip. IE ice, rocky roads, steep inclines etc...
I should have been clearer. I meant paved roads with snow, ice etc. Just like the guys with PT would have to do since they have no FT. But yes, you better shift out of PT when you hit a clear spot. With FT you can just forget about the shifting in and out.
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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 08:50 AM
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so in reality i can use 4 wheel drive full time offroad too? but part time is better? sorry im new to this.
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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by MudMann94
so in reality i can use 4 wheel drive full time offroad too? but part time is better? sorry im new to this.
Re-read Posts #10 and #12.
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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 08:54 AM
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okay thanks guys. To engage 4 wheel do i have to put it in reverse to engage it? i know in my dads ford bronco it engages in reverse
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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 09:00 AM
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The Jeep transfer cases like we're talking about here were designed to be "shift on the fly". You can shift from 2H to 4H at up to 55 MPH. It's best done above 20MPh and using this method:
Let off the gas, throw the lever, tap the gas and let off to facilitate the shift.

That said, shifting into 4 low should be done AFTER shifting into 4H, stopped, with the trans in Neutral.
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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by caged
where do you get that from? those numbers appear to be the last number in the case.
example:
231/241 are part time case.
242 is a full time case.
247 is (likely) the geo case.
249 is the viscous case.

so in all reality, the 231 and the 241 are the stronger cases. 241 is found in the jeep rubicon.

but anyway. that's not the question here.

to the op, no worries using full time off road. it would be fine, just try to stay away from using part time on road. unless you only use it for snow covered roads and disengage when you hit dry road. better to just use full time option and fuhgeddaboudit,
The chart breaks down the letters and what each number stands for in the transfer case model.

NP231 being:

NP = New Process Gear
2 = Two Speed
3 = Strength on 1-7 scale
1 = Part-time 4WD

NP242 being:

NP = New Process Gear
2 = Two Speed
4 = Strength on 1-7 scale
2 = Full-time 4WD

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Also, it's straight from New Venture Gear.

EDIT: To the OP, everyone has filled you in with good info.

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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 09:30 AM
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ok, i'm confused, cause there's no way a viscous coupler is stronger than a 231. and no way the 242 is either.

so i don't know how that chart works.
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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by caged
ok, i'm confused, cause there's no way a viscous coupler is stronger than a 231. and no way the 242 is either.


so i don't know how that chart works.
Makes you wonder what they're using as a parameter for strength, huh?

Is it a torque rating?
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Originally Posted by caged
ok, i'm confused, cause there's no way a viscous coupler is stronger than a 231. and no way the 242 is either.

so i don't know how that chart works.
I have no clue what it's based upon or how it works (maybe Defiance665 does since he posted it), but we all know the 231 and 242 debate has been ongoing forever based upon the locked differential of the 231 and the open differential of the 242. I'd assume that the viscous coupler is the weak point of the 249 and it is just so pronounced that it leads it to be an undesirable case to have. Then again, I don't know how they judge strength...
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so on my 231 when I go into 4 lo or high which can be used "full time" I know I have a primarly part time t-case but I have a full time light that comes on occasionally. When I was on mt aetna a few weeks ago I was going up the trail which was basically just dirt with some decent rocks in part time and I had zero problems, but since winter is coming up I need to figure out how to get into 4x4 full time to cruise the snowy streets.
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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 10:58 AM
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alright thanks guys so is it bad that wen i shift into 4 full time i stop the jeep put it into neutral and then shift, then put it into drive? can i do it like this or is it better to be moving?
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Originally Posted by MudMann94
alright thanks guys so is it bad that wen i shift into 4 full time i stop the jeep put it into neutral and then shift, then put it into drive? can i do it like this or is it better to be moving?
I've kind of found that my 242 shifts into FT better by doing the stop-shift-back-up method, but PT shifts on the fly much easier. It's not any harder on the case either way you do it.
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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Xj88
so on my 231 when I go into 4 lo or high which can be used "full time" I know I have a primarly part time t-case but I have a full time light that comes on occasionally. When I was on mt aetna a few weeks ago I was going up the trail which was basically just dirt with some decent rocks in part time and I had zero problems, but since winter is coming up I need to figure out how to get into 4x4 full time to cruise the snowy streets.
And if your case doesn't have a selection between 4hi and neutral that actually says Full Time 4wd, then it can't be used full time. I have a 2wd 86 Ranger that occasionally has a dash light that says its in 4x4.
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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Xj88
so on my 231 when I go into 4 lo or high which can be used "full time" I know I have a primarly part time t-case but I have a full time light that comes on occasionally. When I was on mt aetna a few weeks ago I was going up the trail which was basically just dirt with some decent rocks in part time and I had zero problems, but since winter is coming up I need to figure out how to get into 4x4 full time to cruise the snowy streets.
The 231 doesn't have a "full-time" option. Are you 100% sure you have a 231? Crawl under your XJ and look at the red label on the case and find out if it is truly a 231 or if it is a 242.

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And if your case doesn't have a selection between 4hi and neutral that actually says Full Time 4wd, then it can't be used full time. I have a 2wd 86 Ranger that occasionally has a dash light that says its in 4x4.
That isn't a good way to verify which case is in it, because someone could have swapped the shifter bezel.
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I'll look in a bit. But it used to say full time when I put it in 4 lo.
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