33's Stock Gears?
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From: Fairfield, CT
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Still think you guys are wrong. If you drive the Heck out or your rig of course the tranny is going to heat up and die. Thats a given for any rig. Keep ganging up on me thats fine, not to smart though since my cherokee has made 2 non stop trips to Reno Nevada and back with this setup....so you do the math.
Race......hahaha...I'll meet you in my driveway tomorrow.
Race......hahaha...I'll meet you in my driveway tomorrow.
There is simply ZERO logic to argue against the fact that 33s on stock gears is **** poor in comparison to a properly geared setup. Sure you Can do it, and get away with it, but that can be applied to a lot, doesnt mean its ideal or right.
Theres no misleading here.
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From: LI, NY
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0, bolt ons for days...
my jeep is my DD.. idk why people say "omg plus its my DD" like it makes them above someone else. i challenge you to take a picture of your tranny fluid right now and post it. i doubt its bright red.
it is just simple logic, larger tires= more stress on the drivetrain. lower gears lessen that stress
larger tires= more rotating mass. more rotating mass = the engine has to work harder to turn the tires. lower gears lessen the amount the engine has to work.
larger tires= less revolutions per mile= less engine rpm= less power, regearing brings the rest of the drivetrain spinning at speeds back to stock, and a higher rpm bringing back closer to stock power
larger tires= more rotating mass. more rotating mass = the engine has to work harder to turn the tires. lower gears lessen the amount the engine has to work.
larger tires= less revolutions per mile= less engine rpm= less power, regearing brings the rest of the drivetrain spinning at speeds back to stock, and a higher rpm bringing back closer to stock power
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From: Washington State
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L HO
Heat is what kills an automatic. distance has tons to do with it, as well as run time. I guess you didn't know that distance can create friction which creates heat My fluid was beautiful I checked it about 2 weeks ago before I went on another trip.
By the way, look up the definition of misleading.....It doesn't say Wrong end of story! it says an interpretation that is not factual or is unrealistic. Amazing huh. I am stating just that. Just cause a few guys say its wright doesn't mean its the facts.
The guy simply wanted to know if he could do it, and I said he can. I'm done with this lame argument.
By the way, look up the definition of misleading.....It doesn't say Wrong end of story! it says an interpretation that is not factual or is unrealistic. Amazing huh. I am stating just that. Just cause a few guys say its wright doesn't mean its the facts.
The guy simply wanted to know if he could do it, and I said he can. I'm done with this lame argument.
it's pretty obvious that someone arguing 33's and 3.55's is a good setup is a guy that's never driven a jeep that's been regeared to compensate for the bigger tires. Your opinion is ignorant and biased due to your lack of experience. You need to drive a jeep that's been regeared, or go back and drive a completely stock jeep to realize how flawed your statements are. you've forgotten how peppy a stock sized jeep is. I could tell a huge difference just going to 31's with my stock gearing. try pulling a small trailer with your 33's and 3.55's. You are correct in saying that heat kills a transmission, but you don't understand that having such heavy wheels causes your jeep to have to downshift much more often because those looonnnng factory gears can't turn those big wheels very easily. All that extra shifting your transmission has to do every time you want to get on the throttle and pass someone or climb a hill causes a ton of excess heat and stress on your transmission. this makes your fluid thin out and not lubricate like it should, which causes excess friction, which in short means you're killing your transmission. If you're not going to regear, at least install a transmission cooler...for the sake of that poor transmission.
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From: Northern Ontario, Canada
Year: 1990, 1999, 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
all you guys arguing like you run 33's.
i run 36's on beadlocks running my stock 3:55 gears and have to drive 4 hours each way to get to the trails. and that's loaded with camp gear.
sure, i have a little struggle going up long hills, but rarely does anyone get infront of me on flat ground. i keep up with traffic just fine. and can cruise at 100kph the whole way there. i don't use any more fuel than my tj on 33's with 3:73 gears. matter of fact, i use the same as my 5.2 dakota 4x4.
sure, when i get in my stock 93, it goes like stink, but i'm not out to race anyone.
yeah, i'm gonna regear the pig this spring, but i have been driving first on 33's for 3 years and now been on 36's for 3 years. my tranny is fine, and my fuel mileage is tolerable. besides, i have 3 spares if anything does happen.
i say run it for now, plan to regear later, then you'll love your jeep all over again.
i run 36's on beadlocks running my stock 3:55 gears and have to drive 4 hours each way to get to the trails. and that's loaded with camp gear.
sure, i have a little struggle going up long hills, but rarely does anyone get infront of me on flat ground. i keep up with traffic just fine. and can cruise at 100kph the whole way there. i don't use any more fuel than my tj on 33's with 3:73 gears. matter of fact, i use the same as my 5.2 dakota 4x4.
sure, when i get in my stock 93, it goes like stink, but i'm not out to race anyone.
yeah, i'm gonna regear the pig this spring, but i have been driving first on 33's for 3 years and now been on 36's for 3 years. my tranny is fine, and my fuel mileage is tolerable. besides, i have 3 spares if anything does happen.
i say run it for now, plan to regear later, then you'll love your jeep all over again.
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From: Fairfield, CT
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
all you guys arguing like you run 33's.
i run 36's on beadlocks running my stock 3:55 gears and have to drive 4 hours each way to get to the trails. and that's loaded with camp gear.
sure, i have a little struggle going up long hills, but rarely does anyone get infront of me on flat ground. i keep up with traffic just fine. and can cruise at 100kph the whole way there. i don't use any more fuel than my tj on 33's with 3:73 gears. matter of fact, i use the same as my 5.2 dakota 4x4.
sure, when i get in my stock 93, it goes like stink, but i'm not out to race anyone.
yeah, i'm gonna regear the pig this spring, but i have been driving first on 33's for 3 years and now been on 36's for 3 years. my tranny is fine, and my fuel mileage is tolerable. besides, i have 3 spares if anything does happen.
i say run it for now, plan to regear later, then you'll love your jeep all over again.

i run 36's on beadlocks running my stock 3:55 gears and have to drive 4 hours each way to get to the trails. and that's loaded with camp gear.
sure, i have a little struggle going up long hills, but rarely does anyone get infront of me on flat ground. i keep up with traffic just fine. and can cruise at 100kph the whole way there. i don't use any more fuel than my tj on 33's with 3:73 gears. matter of fact, i use the same as my 5.2 dakota 4x4.
sure, when i get in my stock 93, it goes like stink, but i'm not out to race anyone.
yeah, i'm gonna regear the pig this spring, but i have been driving first on 33's for 3 years and now been on 36's for 3 years. my tranny is fine, and my fuel mileage is tolerable. besides, i have 3 spares if anything does happen.
i say run it for now, plan to regear later, then you'll love your jeep all over again.

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From: Fairfield, CT
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww 
Hey guys, can i run a 15" lift and 30s? i can??? sweet im doing that!!!! because i can!
if someone asks if they can, and they can, but its not ideal, other people arent allowed to come in and say that? It is not good, ideal, right, or favorable by ANY stretch of the imagination, and that is whats being argued. Tech is so lame, i know. We should rename this to Cherokee Opinion Board (No actual tech allowed)
Other people read these threads as well. Just because the OP asked if it can work for a minute or 10 seconds or a month or whatever span he has going, doesnt mean the tech value will be lost to the other countless people browsing this forum.

Hey guys, can i run a 15" lift and 30s? i can??? sweet im doing that!!!! because i can!
if someone asks if they can, and they can, but its not ideal, other people arent allowed to come in and say that? It is not good, ideal, right, or favorable by ANY stretch of the imagination, and that is whats being argued. Tech is so lame, i know. We should rename this to Cherokee Opinion Board (No actual tech allowed)
Other people read these threads as well. Just because the OP asked if it can work for a minute or 10 seconds or a month or whatever span he has going, doesnt mean the tech value will be lost to the other countless people browsing this forum.
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From: Aurora
Year: 1997 XJ
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 HO JASPER MOTOR
run what ya got i run 32/11.50 inch bfg mud terrains and my tranny doesnt heat up that bad and i wheel the **** out of it! i will be re gearing my axles with 4 56's in about 6 months. but also be running 35s on stock axles.
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From: Northern Ontario, Canada
Year: 1990, 1999, 2000
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Engine: 4.0
i agree, running larger tires on stock setup isn't ideal. but if the tires come to you before the chance of setting up gears, wtf not? it can be done with little issues.
i'm all for building the rig properly, but for some of us it takes steps. and larger tires on stock gears is more tolerable than 4.88's with 29 inchers.
use what is available, if you plan on finishing it later. i just had too many other issues to deal with first, like steering and longarms... now it's on to regearing for me.
i'm all for building the rig properly, but for some of us it takes steps. and larger tires on stock gears is more tolerable than 4.88's with 29 inchers.
use what is available, if you plan on finishing it later. i just had too many other issues to deal with first, like steering and longarms... now it's on to regearing for me.
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From: Oak Harbor, WA.
Year: 1987
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 liter RENIX I-6, DIY Cold Air Intake, 2.5 FM Exhaust, 3 Core Radiator
Fivendime. I actually gotta side with the other guys. I think with an automatic you could "live" with the 33s and 3.55s, for just until you could afford to re-gear. You will ruin your clutch with a manual.
I learned my lesson with my Toyota truck. 33s and stock 4.10s smoked my clutch within 3 months. I HATED it!!!!! So, as I was installing my 5.29 gears, I was replacing my clutch, too. Pretty spendy bad decision I made.
So, armed with that knowledge, in my Jeep, I put in the 4.56s first and then I will be getting the 33s soon, as my 32s are about wore out.
I learned my lesson with my Toyota truck. 33s and stock 4.10s smoked my clutch within 3 months. I HATED it!!!!! So, as I was installing my 5.29 gears, I was replacing my clutch, too. Pretty spendy bad decision I made.
So, armed with that knowledge, in my Jeep, I put in the 4.56s first and then I will be getting the 33s soon, as my 32s are about wore out.
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From: Oak Harbor, WA.
Year: 1987
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 liter RENIX I-6, DIY Cold Air Intake, 2.5 FM Exhaust, 3 Core Radiator
I think with an automatic, you could "live" with 3.55s and 33s but, just until you could afford to re-gear. With a manual you'll smoke your clutch within a few months.
I learned this lesson with my Toyota Truck. Stock 4.10s and 33s destroyed my clutch within 3 months. So, as I was installing my 5.29 gears, I was replacing my clutch as well. Very costly lesson I learned.
With my Jeep, I re-geared to 4.56 and I will be getting my 33s soon, as my 32s are about worn out.
I learned this lesson with my Toyota Truck. Stock 4.10s and 33s destroyed my clutch within 3 months. So, as I was installing my 5.29 gears, I was replacing my clutch as well. Very costly lesson I learned.
With my Jeep, I re-geared to 4.56 and I will be getting my 33s soon, as my 32s are about worn out.




