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Old Jun 28, 2016 | 04:56 PM
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Default Exhaust header, steam clean and Kroil

I thought I'd pass along my experience with some subjects that are commonly discussed on here.

Today I replaced a cracked header with a new aftermarket unit. Before doing that, I bought a can of aero kroil and hit every fastener that needed to be wrenched. I also ran 32 oz of water through the throttle body over the weekend to chase the carbon.

The job took 3 hours. The bolts and nuts released incredibly easy for a 1998 from the rust belt. The intake ports were amazingly free of carbon deposits. Actually saw some new looking surfaces.

It's no hype what the water does to clean up your combustion chambers. And kroil is certainly a better alternative to pb blaster. That's going on my solvent shelf from now on.
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Old Jun 28, 2016 | 06:29 PM
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Got some pics of the squeaky clean cylinders and ports?
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We always had Kroil in the garage when I was growing up. It's very good stuff.
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Old Jun 28, 2016 | 08:37 PM
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We always had Kroil in the garage when I was growing up. It's very good stuff.
I wasn't sure if it was as good as the legend suggested. But after using it, I will not go back to the minor league products. It's a little expensive, but when it saves your *** in breaking loose fasteners, it's worth it.
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I noticed the same phenomenon when I pulled the manifolds off of my xj for the first time. after breaking the bolts loose with a wrench I was able to use my fingers to remove them. I was very surprised given all of the rust and crud on the engine.

how exactly does one get carbon deposits on the INTAKE ports...?
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I noticed the same phenomenon when I pulled the manifolds off of my xj for the first time. after breaking the bolts loose with a wrench I was able to use my fingers to remove them. I was very surprised given all of the rust and crud on the engine.

how exactly does one get carbon deposits on the INTAKE ports...?
CCV system. It's an oily, carbon like crap.
Seen it a million times.
Open your throttle butterfly and shine a light down there.
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Originally Posted by Orlo
I wasn't sure if it was as good as the legend suggested. But after using it, I will not go back to the minor league products. It's a little expensive, but when it saves your *** in breaking loose fasteners, it's worth it.
Once you use Kroil, you'll throw rocks at PB Blaster.
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why kroil over pb blaster? not that i don't trust you, but pb blaster is readily available over the counter whereas i'd have to order kroil online at 4x the price on amazon, so is it worth it that much?

can i make my own acetone/atf mix to have comparable results?
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Originally Posted by Cane
why kroil over pb blaster? not that i don't trust you, but pb blaster is readily available over the counter whereas i'd have to order kroil online at 4x the price on amazon, so is it worth it that much?

can i make my own acetone/atf mix to have comparable results?
Because it works way better.

How often you need to buy it?

With Kroil, you'll use way less to get the job done.

Do you like drilling out studs instead just to save a few bucks on penetrating oil?

This is called VALUE. It's not always price.
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
Open your throttle butterfly and shine a light down there.
arent carbon deposits made during combustion...?
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Originally Posted by s346k
arent carbon deposits made during combustion...?
Let's not go overboard here. It's a black baked on substance in the intake for crying out loud!!!

It gets cleaned out to a great extent when doing the water trick.
It's just fine to leave it there......

And, carbon takes on many forms.
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oh...right.

for anyone interested - installing a catch can in line between the valve cover and intake manifold will keep all that oil from caking itself on the intake runners and throttle body. it does require a bit of maintenance as in occasionally emptying the can.
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
Because it works way better.

How often you need to buy it?

With Kroil, you'll use way less to get the job done.

Do you like drilling out studs instead just to save a few bucks on penetrating oil?

This is called VALUE. It's not always price.
i understand the value aspect of it, but at 50$ for a single can, no thanks. i have no doubt it's that much better, but reading other posts online people seem to say it's way easier to source your own mix than to get kroil, hence why i'm wondering if it's worth it.

i'll try my luck with an acetone/atf homebrew mix. at the junkyard i was able to get every bolt and one of the 2 stud out and only pb blasted once 10 minutes before starting the job.
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Old Jun 29, 2016 | 09:21 AM
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My local Mac tool truck carries Kroil on his truck for sale, he has been in business for a long time.
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I buy Kroil on amazon, and I don't think I've ever paid anything near $50. I do buy the smaller aerosol cans, and my first can lasted over a year, and I use it on almost every job. So the value has been really good. In fact, the original can was getting low on propellant but still had product in it, so I gave it to a friend, because while it does not spray as strongly, it will still be good for probably 50-100 uses.

Once trying Kroil, I don't think I could go back to the others. It is wickedly good. I first got turned onto it when getting prepared to remove the crank pulley bolt from a honda before timing/water pump job. I haven't been without it since.

Its primary advantage is it can get into impossibly small spaces, and rather quickly. For example, extremely tight u-joints. Or seriously old and corroded fasteners.
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