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XJwonders 10-19-2016 09:02 AM

The tale of SuperMJ
 
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Howdy everybody. Look like it's time to start a new build thread in the MJ section of the forum. That's something new for me. Ha.

Before I start the introduction, I need to explain how I came to this point...
In 2009 I started a money pit project; a BBQ smoker mounted on a trailer. After a couple of years, I lost motivation, (I didn't have time to constantly drive to my grandmother's house to work on the BBQ smoker, it was stowed in her garage). I already had my first jeep XJ which was lifted and all, I knew I needed another vehicle to daily drive, what's better than another XJ? That way I ll only need to keep stock of same parts instead of two different piles of parts.

So I put the smoker up for barter on Craigslist. About two days later, I got a hit. A guy had a 2001 XJ with warped head that he didn't want anymore. We went ahead with the trade.

This is the build thread for the silver 2001 XJ
https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f46/si...roject-195354/

I replaced the head with a TUPY 0331, fixed few minor stuff and got it running, which was great because it had AC (it was summertime). By August I got bored of it, and wanted something different. So I sold it for $2,200.

I wanted a 5 speed XJ, just because... I looked for about a month and found this gem... 1999 XJ with 4.0 and AX-15. I bought it for $500 and drove it home.

Here's the build thread.
https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f46/je...x-15-a-198800/

To recap what happened, I put in a 2.5 lift, slapped on some 31's, swapped the axles to get 3.55 ratio (HP30 and a XJ D44). Swapped the t case out to a NP242. Etc etc.
I made a mistake that I still regret to this day... selling it. I sold it for $3,800 (I put in only $2000-including the purchase price of $500). Still a decent profit but I regret it nonetheless.

I bought a purple 1998 XJ auto for $900. I thought I could flip it and sell it but that didn't happen unfortunately. It was a nightmare working on it. Lol. Eventually led to the diagnosis of bad piston rings in cylinder number 1 on the engine.

Here's the build thread.
https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f46/gr...e-haze-219593/

I wanted to get rid of it. I also wanted something completely different. I got really tired of XJs at that point. I'm about to move to a new house with a garage. I knew I would need a truck of some sorts but it should have a 4.0 so that way I can reduce the amount of parts to stockpile. And because I m used to working on it and I'm pretty familiar with it. I also usually haul stuff such as axles, and stuff. It's difficult to load the XJ lol.

Here is where a MJ comes in. I knew I can't afford to buy one and I couldn't sell the purple XJ for a decent price either. So a trade is the only way.

I keep asking various Craigslist postings to see if they were willing to trade. Some were willing, some weren't. One guy even tried to rip me off by jerking me around with vagueness and asshole-ness... anyway.

One day I saw a posting that asked for $3000 for both MJs (one good running one and a parts one). I thought it wouldn't hurt to ask.

He agreed to the trade, so I drove the jeep over and took both trucks home.

And that's how I ended up with TWO MJs! Who would have thought??

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88whitecomanche 10-19-2016 09:40 AM

2 (man) master jeeps! Score! Can't wait for the progress, oh and they make for good storage for parts, and the use for the bed is outstanding!

XJwonders 10-19-2016 11:33 AM

Oh I realized I forgot to add details about both MJs.

The tan one is 1988 pioneer with 4.0, AW4, and Dana 35 (2wd). 239,000 miles on it. Obviously a renix. I ll be keeping this one.

The red one is a 1991 eliminator with 4.0, ax15, and 8.25 rear axle (2wd) 129,000 miles on it. This is a parts-only vehicle since there's no title for it.

I'm keeping the pioneer because the body is in better condition overall. I still haven't decided what to do with the other MJ.... part it out, try to find a title, or turn it into trails-only crawler. I ll know when time comes.

Dumajones 10-19-2016 06:18 PM

I subbed to see how bad you mess this up..

I can see you as a XJ owner,, but an MJ owner
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...1d09148d26.jpg

lol

XJwonders 10-19-2016 06:26 PM

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So when I arrived at the dude's house. I looked over the eliminator because he didn't arrived yet. It was parked against the fence and he must have spray painted it black because the side against the fence was still red... lazy ****.
I ll need to remove the paint somehow.

It's missing a battery, starter, and the rear driveshaft. So I couldn't get a chance to fire it up. The interior is nearly immaculate. I would rate it 9 out of 10. Blue interior. Maybe I should swap entire interior into the pioneer.

Someone put a Chrysler 8.25 axle under it.... new u bolts and all. Yeah that's great... but he never welded new perches on it. Oh well.

The coils seem to be really old progressive type of springs along with really old tubular lower control arms. Can anyone take a stab at as who made them?


The guy arrived in the 88 pioneer. It had extremely offset wheels with 275/65/15 tires. Looked really stupid. I checked them out. Real bad rot on them. I demanded to keep my tires/wheels off the purple XJ. He obliged and helped me swap them. Now the pioneer looks much better.

Final act I had with the purple XJ was to yank the eliminator out of its resting place and pulled it towards the tow dolly.

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XJwonders 10-19-2016 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by Dumajones
I subbed to see how bad you mess this up..

I can see you as a XJ owner,, but an MJ owner
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...1d09148d26.jpg

lol

Hahahaha

XJwonders 10-19-2016 06:27 PM

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It rode really terrible due to blown rear shocks... and broken leaf packs. In fact, on Sunday I went ahead and replace them with the leaves from a Dodge Durango... I used top three leafs with eyes cut off under the MJ main leafs.

When I removed the centering pin, a pile of broken leafs fell down to the ground. 8 broken leaves in total.

Replaced the rear shocks with brand new JK Sahara shocks. Nearly same lengths and I already had them on hand. So why not.

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XJwonders 10-19-2016 06:32 PM

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XJwonders 10-19-2016 06:38 PM

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Last night I did Cruiser54's TIP 18...

Refreshing and extending the ground for the dash.

When I drove it home late that night I got it, I was startled at how the dash lights suddenly went wonky and dimmed & brighten up randomly. At first I got to admit. I thought the alternator was on its way out. Luckily I made it home.
I checked the handy TIPS and saw that the ground was poorly designed. So I used a 16" wire with eyelets crimped on it, placed one of them under the original grounding location and put the other end on the stud which holds the parking brake mechanism.

Before I did this... the cigarette lighter didn't work, there's poor illumination, and the wipers didn't work.

After I did this, the wipers now work, the lighter outlet works, the illumination stayed bright, and the little light inside power/comfort switch illuminated. So it is not a myth. It really works.

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I also took the drivers side tail light out and cleaned the grounding location there (for the taillights and the fuel pump) I ran out of eyelets so I will be doing the fuel pump ground extension later on.

While I had the taillights out. I decided to upgrade the reverse lights to LED.

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XJwonders 10-19-2016 06:55 PM

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I also bought the new nipple to convert the oil filter adapter to standard 3/4 threads so I have wider range of oil filters available to use.

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XJwonders 10-19-2016 06:58 PM

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Uh oh. I see something that need to be eliminated...

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I plan on replacing both front and rear bumpers. I like JCR offroad's MJ DIY rear bumper and probably gonna do JCR front too.

XJwonders 10-19-2016 06:59 PM

Oh I also got rid of the black plastic toolbox on the back, because a friend gave me a beat up aluminum toolbox. It just need some straightening out and reinforcing.

I ll keep the rack bar thingy. It need to be cut down a bit lower and I ll weld a mesh across it so nothing ll hit my head just in case.

Outlaw Star 10-19-2016 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by Dumajones (Post 3319255)
I subbed to see how bad you mess this up..

I can see you as a XJ owner,, but an MJ owner
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...1d09148d26.jpg

lol

He's got some "supervision" from a few of us. Lol

chipmaker 10-20-2016 07:28 AM

Subbed. Congrats! :thumbup:

CobraMarty 10-20-2016 10:33 AM

Busted all leafs, That's impressive.

XJwonders 10-20-2016 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by CobraMarty
Busted all leafs, That's impressive.

Indeed. Thank you very much for the leaf packs. It was really helpful at such a short notice. I appreciate it and it was nice meeting you also.

Rogue4x4 10-20-2016 11:17 AM

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:


I vote the non-titled one be turned into a trails-only truggy. THAT would be SICK.

XJwonders 10-20-2016 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by roninofako
:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:


I vote the non-titled one be turned into a trails-only truggy. THAT would be SICK.

Lol if that happens. That might mean I ll have to give up my street legal crawler and move the parts over to it. Ehhhhh. I don't even have a truck/trailer let alone afford it... and the new house won't have any room for it. Lol.

I might keep the chassis and leave it in the backyard for few years if I do decide to keep it though. Who know what I ll end up doing with it in the future.

Rogue4x4 10-20-2016 11:35 AM

You're no fun...LOL

Basslicks 10-20-2016 11:41 AM

Lee, I think he's trying to follow in your footsteps with the tan MJ ;)

XJwonders 10-20-2016 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by roninofako
You're no fun...LOL

IF I do turn it into a truffle, I ll do something like this

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XJwonders 10-20-2016 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by XJwonders
IF I do turn it into a truffle, I ll do something like this

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Wtf auto correct. TRUGGY*****

XJwonders 10-20-2016 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by Basslicks
Lee, I think he's trying to follow in your footsteps with the tan MJ ;)

Lol. Nope. Not even close...

The plans for the pioneer is to have 4wd conversion with the AX-15, NP242 combo, on dana 44 front and rear. I already have a waggy 44 front axle sitting in storage. I have 4.27 gears, arb locker for it. Just need to get an Isuzu Dana 44 LSD for the rear. There will be a service bed on it with OBA, and hopefully an onboard welder if I can afford it by then.

Basslicks 10-20-2016 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by XJwonders (Post 3319476)
Wtf auto correct. TRUGGY*****

:rofl: truffle... that was great!


Originally Posted by XJwonders (Post 3319478)
Lol. Nope. Not even close...

The plans for the pioneer is to have 4wd conversion with the AX-15, NP242 combo, on dana 44 front and rear. I already have a waggy 44 front axle sitting in storage. I have 4.27 gears, arb locker for it. Just need to get an Isuzu Dana 44 LSD for the rear. There will be a service bed on it with OBA, and hopefully an onboard welder if I can afford it by then.

Meh, close enough.... his is an AX4 w/ D44 rear... I think it's got 4.11 gears. Obviously not EXACT but.... DAMMIT NEAL, WHY YA GOTTA TAKE THE FUNNY OUT OF IT!!!

Rogue4x4 10-20-2016 03:04 PM

Exactly what I had in mind, Neal

Basslicks 10-20-2016 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by XJwonders (Post 3319474)
IF I do turn it into a truffle, I ll do something like this

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I really like the trailer fenders on this. Looks really good.

Outlaw Star 10-20-2016 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by Basslicks (Post 3319494)
:rofl: truffle... that was great!Meh, close enough.... his is an AX4 w/ D44 rear... I think it's got 4.11 gears. Obviously not EXACT but.... DAMMIT NEAL, WHY YA GOTTA TAKE THE FUNNY OUT OF IT!!!

Built in Oct 1986 as one of the first run 87 SWB SporTrucks. 2WD, AX-4, D44 modified Tracloc w/4.10 gears, 5" lift and 31x10.50's.
Nope, not even close to mine. Lol.

XJwonders 10-20-2016 06:07 PM

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So I did some noggin poking around the engine bay visually inspecting stuff. Also was taping apart random connectors so I can spray electronic cleaners in them...
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I was looking at the ground cable from battery to block. And for some unknown reason I felt compelled to touch it. I was startled to see that the insulation literally crumbled apart like if you squeezed a bag of chips and little pieces came out of the bag...

The cable was covered in oil and that's what crumbled apart... the parts of insulation that wasn't covered with oil was still intact.

So yes the myth about oil breaking down certain types of insulation is true, as apparently shown.

Perfect reason to upgrade your battery cables! I use welding cables because the insulation jackets are oil resistant.

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XJwonders 10-20-2016 06:07 PM

And yes the heater control valve will be deleted later on. Don't ya worry!

Rogue4x4 10-20-2016 08:41 PM

Re-engineer it...word has it someone on the site has the data for ya, lolz

cruiser54 10-21-2016 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by roninofako (Post 3319688)
Re-engineer it...word has it someone on the site has the data for ya, lolz

He's been texting and emailing me like crazy!!

LOL. He's getting it done the right way, huh?

Rogue4x4 10-21-2016 08:58 AM

:thumbup1:

Basslicks 10-21-2016 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by Outlaw Star (Post 3319608)
Built in Oct 1986 as one of the first run 87 SWB SporTrucks. 2WD, AX-4, D44 modified Tracloc w/4.10 gears, 5" lift and 31x10.50's.
Nope, not even close to mine. Lol.

Well, when ya put it that way... :tt2:


Originally Posted by roninofako (Post 3319688)
Re-engineer it...word has it someone on the site has the data for ya, lolz

:rofl:

XJwonders 10-23-2016 09:41 PM

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Today I had time to do a bit of work. I decided to replace all the battery cables.

Luckily that block ground cable was only one that had severe insulation damage. I went ahead and replaced the battery post clamps as well.

I decided to retain the protective shroud from the alternator and starter cables to reuse on new cables.
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I decided for now to keep the plastic cover to hide the jumble mess. Of course I had to trim it a bit.
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This is what it looks like without the cover.
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I also added another grounding cable (all renix jeeps was lacking this feature.
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I also took the C101 apart so I can clean it for the time being. I eventually will eliminate it when I m able to tap into a power source for the solder gun.... (my parking spot from the apartment building is approximately 400 feet away.)

After I got both sides of connectors cleaned up, I fired up the jeep and it really improved dramatically. No rough idle and better throttle response. Dang.

The crap inside the C101 looked like the AMC engineers took turns pooping on a plate, then microwaved it until its tar-like before smearing on the connector back in the factory.
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Oh on a side note. Remember when I did the dash ground upgrade? I finally got the B-pillars lights to work. It wouldn't work before I did the ground. So that's a minor yay.

cruiser54 10-23-2016 09:44 PM

Geez Neal, you're like a poster child for my Tips!!!!

Basslicks 10-24-2016 06:12 AM


Originally Posted by cruiser54 (Post 3320810)
Geez Neal, you're like a poster child for my Tips!!!!

Right? Hard to argue with what works though.

NewbJeep 10-24-2016 06:52 AM


Originally Posted by XJwonders (Post 3320809)
The crap inside the C101 looked like the AMC engineers took turns pooping on a plate, then microwaved it until its tar-like before smearing on the connector back in the factory.

LOL

Originally Posted by cruiser54 (Post 3320810)
Geez Neal, you're like a poster child for my Tips!!!!

Well that's gotta be an honor if I've ever heard one on CF

XJwonders 10-26-2016 09:16 PM

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Yesterday I had the pioneer inspected... passed emissions but failed safety inspection.

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Apparently this bumper wasn't acceptable...

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The passenger side mount was poking through the bumper and was an automatic fail. Luckily I had the other bumper from the eliminator sitting in the bed so it only took me 35 minutes to snap 5 out of 10 bolts and got the rest out. Swapped the bumpers and used remaining 5 bolts to tighten it up, for now. I ll look into an aftermarket rear bumper soon.

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The old bumper was so rusted thin. I actually folded it in half. Lol.

About the muffler, I think I have a 2.5" muffler sitting in storage from one of the part outs. I'm going to contact an exhaust shop and see if they can make a new tailpipe out of 2.5" pipe.

The exhaust manifold isn't really broken like he claimed. It's only cracked.

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So I'm gonna have to take it out and weld the crack shut. For now. I would like to replace the manifold later on down the road though.

Now to the rear axle... here's my dilemma. Do I spend $200 to overhaul the brakes and seals to pass the inspection just to toss it away when I put in a dana 44? I have a Chrysler 8.25 axle on the eliminator. No perches on it but I could grab a set for cheap. However I still don't know the condition of the brakes as well.

Option A; overhaul the dana 35 then toss it in 6 months
Option B; swap the C8.25 then toss it in 6 months.
Option C; don't drive the MJ at all for at least 6 months and then swap in new set of axles.

Unless I manage to find another MJ axle for really cheap.

Rogue4x4 10-26-2016 11:37 PM


Originally Posted by XJwonders (Post 3321970)
Yesterday I had the pioneer inspected... passed emissions but failed safety inspection.

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Apparently this bumper wasn't acceptable...

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The passenger side mount was poking through the bumper and was an automatic fail. Luckily I had the other bumper from the eliminator sitting in the bed so it only took me 35 minutes to snap 5 out of 10 bolts and got the rest out. Swapped the bumpers and used remaining 5 bolts to tighten it up, for now. I ll look into an aftermarket rear bumper soon.

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The old bumper was so rusted thin. I actually folded it in half. Lol.

About the muffler, I think I have a 2.5" muffler sitting in storage from one of the part outs. I'm going to contact an exhaust shop and see if they can make a new tailpipe out of 2.5" pipe.

The exhaust manifold isn't really broken like he claimed. It's only cracked.

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So I'm gonna have to take it out and weld the crack shut. For now. I would like to replace the manifold later on down the road though.

Now to the rear axle... here's my dilemma. Do I spend $200 to overhaul the brakes and seals to pass the inspection just to toss it away when I put in a dana 44? I have a Chrysler 8.25 axle on the eliminator. No perches on it but I could grab a set for cheap. However I still don't know the condition of the brakes as well.

Option A; overhaul the dana 35 then toss it in 6 months
Option B; swap the C8.25 then toss it in 6 months.
Option C; don't drive the MJ at all for at least 6 months and then swap in new set of axles.

Unless I manage to find another MJ axle for really cheap.

Option B. Hands down. Seems the best way. Don't drop one dime into the 35, waste of money...the corp axle may need a thing or two, but won't break the bank, and when you do swap it out later, you can sell it to recoup some of the cost. Waiting 6 months to drive it isn't even an option in my book, LOL


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