wj brake/knuckle steering ?
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curious if the wj brake upgrade can be done in stages?
thought was perhaps i can upgrade knuckles and rotor/caliper while keeping the zj steering linkage. will the zj Y link steering fit on the xj with the wj knuckles?
thought was perhaps i can upgrade knuckles and rotor/caliper while keeping the zj steering linkage. will the zj Y link steering fit on the xj with the wj knuckles?
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I think you might run into problems trying to do it in stages. The steering is different from the WJ (crossover) and ZJ/XJ steering (inverted T). Also your drag link and track bar are going to be way out of whack.
I'm not 100% sure on this, so hopefully someone else will chime in. But from the research I've done you should upgrade the steering when you do the knuckle swap.
I'm not 100% sure on this, so hopefully someone else will chime in. But from the research I've done you should upgrade the steering when you do the knuckle swap.
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I have done it, and you have to do it all at once. Be prepared to redo the track bar brackets to get the geometry right so you won't have death wobble
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it seems tricky setting up the Trac bar bracket. Technically it should be right by the knuckle to prevent bumpsteer, not easily done cleanly.
is the bumpsteer harsh if an aftermarket bracket is used, one that places the Trac bar above and in from the stock location?
Last edited by 4x4jeepmanthing; Mar 22, 2020 at 09:27 PM.
I've had WJ knuckles and brakes with XJ steering for almost two years now...works perfectly fine.
I have the go-fer-it tie rod inserts in mine because I originally wanted to do OTK with heims and drilled out the steering arms but then changed my mind. So no guarantees that the stock knuckles will work, with XJ tie rod ends. I think they should but I'm not 100%.
To be clear, I did not use the WJ steering arm for the draglink, its still all in the stock XJ/ZJ configuration I just have an extra unused steering arm on the knuckle. And no changes to the track bar.
I have the go-fer-it tie rod inserts in mine because I originally wanted to do OTK with heims and drilled out the steering arms but then changed my mind. So no guarantees that the stock knuckles will work, with XJ tie rod ends. I think they should but I'm not 100%.
To be clear, I did not use the WJ steering arm for the draglink, its still all in the stock XJ/ZJ configuration I just have an extra unused steering arm on the knuckle. And no changes to the track bar.
when i did the wj swap i also just bolted my stock xj steering linkage utk to the wj knuckles,adjust the toe & center the steering wheel, used it that way months until i finally went otk 1 ton linkage.
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did you have to sleeve the wj knuckles with the xj TREs?
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no the xj tre s just bolt right in, when going to 1 ton tre s i reamed down from the top. btw i would not suggest using used jy ball joints. just buy a new set of JK uppers & lowers , its whats needed wj knuckles
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oh ide never buy used ball joints, just knuckles.
didnt know JK ball joints worked for this?? i thought xj uppers, wj lowers were whats needed.
brakes,caliper spacers, knuckle spacers, my hubs are 97s- these dont need to change to do they?, im getting mixed reviews on every thread for these.
didnt know JK ball joints worked for this?? i thought xj uppers, wj lowers were whats needed.
brakes,caliper spacers, knuckle spacers, my hubs are 97s- these dont need to change to do they?, im getting mixed reviews on every thread for these.
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crap, so it is the "bigger" hub. i know the 4.5 drilled discs are needed and i plan to use akebono brake calipers.
has anyone ever found the 1/4" caliper spacer is not needed, or is this definitely need? i know the hub spacer has to be welded on.
has anyone ever found the 1/4" caliper spacer is not needed, or is this definitely need? i know the hub spacer has to be welded on.
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Ball joints d30 xj upper, wj lower. Year on uppers doesn't change anything right. Lp/hp d30 ball joints stay the same don't they?
a parts list I'm referencing suggested 01 xj uppers 01 wj lowers?
a parts list I'm referencing suggested 01 xj uppers 01 wj lowers?


