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What happens when DW comes and goes as it wants?

Old Oct 10, 2011 | 09:52 PM
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Default What happens when DW comes and goes as it wants?

So ive read all the threads about dw and im not sure whats going on. i can be driving down the no problem then bam dw then no dw. its not caused by bumps but they make it worse. my track bar is good, bushings seem good. steering feels good. any ideas? or anyone around jacksonville, nc want to look at it?

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93 xj
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4.5 springs in the front
bastard + 2in blocks in rear giving 3.5
skyjacker trackbar relocation bracket
eveything else stock
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 10:29 PM
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nobody? its my dd
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 07:07 AM
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Look for worn/bad tie rod ends on drag link and tie rod. Are your control arm bushings good?

Best to have someone turn the steering wheel lock to lock and look for things that move that shouldnt move
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 07:22 AM
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4.5 in the front with stock control arms? Could be your caster being off but would think it would do it more often then not. I know you said your track bar is tight but I had a similar problem, mainly started by bumps, and nothing seemed loose, but when turning the wheel lock to lock I noticed play in my axle side track bar mount bolt. Tighten the hell out of it and never had a problem since.
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mickey_00xj
4.5 in the front with stock control arms? Could be your caster being off but would think it would do it more often then not. I know you said your track bar is tight but I had a similar problem, mainly started by bumps, and nothing seemed loose, but when turning the wheel lock to lock I noticed play in my axle side track bar mount bolt. Tighten the hell out of it and never had a problem since.
im going to mess with the caster. hopefully my steering box isnt going. and all the bolts to my relocation bracket and track bar are torqued down good.
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by TheJerm
Look for worn/bad tie rod ends on drag link and tie rod. Are your control arm bushings good?

Best to have someone turn the steering wheel lock to lock and look for things that move that shouldnt move
bushings are good. and tie rods look good
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 01:42 PM
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well i should be picking up a dana 30 from a zj soon. im grabbing everything the guy will let me and replace what i can. hope it works
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 03:46 PM
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front wheels out of balance? This is a common cause that often gets overlooked. Also make sure the ball joints good as well as your wheel hubs.
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by no rdplz
front wheels out of balance? This is a common cause that often gets overlooked. Also make sure the ball joints good as well as your wheel hubs.
ill check them tomorrow
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 04:24 PM
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heres apretty good write up on ithttp://www.jeeparticles.com/technica...e_shooting.htm
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 05:05 PM
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if you are on stock length LCAs (lower control arms) then you need to shim the LCAs forward... if you remove the frame side mounting bolt for the LCA you will see that the LCA is slotted... further more you can make that slot a little longer if you have the correct tools

the max you can shim them LCAs is around 1/3" due to the length of that slotted bolt hole... if you make the slot longer then you can go further... however 1/3" should be just about right
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 05:06 PM
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would anyone be willing to talk me through checking everything?
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ericfx1984
if you are on stock length LCAs (lower control arms) then you need to shim the LCAs forward... if you remove the frame side mounting bolt for the LCA you will see that the LCA is slotted... further more you can make that slot a little longer if you have the correct tools

the max you can shim them LCAs is around 1/3" due to the length of that slotted bolt hole... if you make the slot longer then you can go further... however 1/3" should be just about right
im pm'ed you.
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 06:34 PM
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I had the same problem with the same setup. 4.5" on a stock front end is asking for it. DW that is.
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Ridin^High
I had the same problem with the same setup. 4.5" on a stock front end is asking for it. DW that is.
I know. I wish I could just do it right the first time with a long arm kit but an E-4 in the Marine Corps does't clear much of a paycheck after normal bills. but I'll make a way.
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