welded rear axle
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From: Oliver Springs, TN
Year: '92
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
I've been running stock gears (3.55's???) with 35" tires simply because that is the way it was set up when I bought it and I haven't had time or money to change it yet. So I've found a steal on a set of front and rear axles with 4.10 gears already installed, but the rear spiders have been welded. I know that running a locker or spool in the front will cause bad street manners, but how about the rear? I've driven many vehicles with lockers in the rear, but none that were spooled or welded. Will it cause me any grief other than the obvious tire dragging around the corners?
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From: Apache Junction, AZ
Year: 1993
Model: Grand Cherokee(ZJ)
Engine: 4.0
It will be super annoying after a short period of time. Plus it puts a lot of added stress on the axles. I personally would not do it for a rig that gets driven on the street.
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From: Oliver Springs, TN
Year: '92
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
How difficult it is to replace the spiders......or will it require more than that?
I'm very mechanically inclined, but have never rebuilt or repaired a diff'.
I'm getting the complete front and rear ends for $100 each (and the rear has already been converted to disc brakes), so I can't pass it up.
I'm very mechanically inclined, but have never rebuilt or repaired a diff'.
I'm getting the complete front and rear ends for $100 each (and the rear has already been converted to disc brakes), so I can't pass it up.
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From: Apache Junction, AZ
Year: 1993
Model: Grand Cherokee(ZJ)
Engine: 4.0
How difficult it is to replace the spiders......or will it require more than that?
I'm very mechanically inclined, but have never rebuilt or repaired a diff'.
I'm getting the complete front and rear ends for $100 each (and the rear has already been converted to disc brakes), so I can't pass it up.
I'm very mechanically inclined, but have never rebuilt or repaired a diff'.
I'm getting the complete front and rear ends for $100 each (and the rear has already been converted to disc brakes), so I can't pass it up.
My DD jeep had a welded rear for ~4 years. I do not recommend it. Kills tires fast, hard to turn in parking lots, noisy, hard on the whole driveline. I think the welded rear contributed to my 40mph roll but thats a different story.
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From: Southern OH
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Spartan lockers are great, I have them in the front and rear and they are the best thing I have done to my Jeep. You may have to get another open carrier to run one since the welded one is probably not reusable. Also I ran a spool in my truck for about 6 months and it wasn't that bad, yes it chirped the tires going around corners and increased tire wear but it handled just fine, going down the road.
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Year: '92
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That's good to know. I may run it as is for a few weeks (I don't drive it very often) and see how it does. If the handling/dragging is TOO annoying, then I'll change the spiders/carrier if I can't deal with it.
Spartan lockers are great, I have them in the front and rear and they are the best thing I have done to my Jeep. You may have to get another open carrier to run one since the welded one is probably not reusable. Also I ran a spool in my truck for about 6 months and it wasn't that bad, yes it chirped the tires going around corners and increased tire wear but it handled just fine, going down the road.
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From: Oliver Springs, TN
Year: '92
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Speaking of locking hubs.........
I know that would be an easy solution for running a locker in the front diff'. Does anyone make a cheap/easy conversion? I did some searching online and found the Yukon kit, but the cheapest I could find it was over $1300. That's just insane and it would be much cheaper to install a complete 44 out of another vehicle. I had a full blown crawler with 60's and ARB air lockers in it (which was SWEEEET) a few years ago, but this thing is a BUDGET build and there's no way I'm gonna sink that kinda money into this one.
I know that would be an easy solution for running a locker in the front diff'. Does anyone make a cheap/easy conversion? I did some searching online and found the Yukon kit, but the cheapest I could find it was over $1300. That's just insane and it would be much cheaper to install a complete 44 out of another vehicle. I had a full blown crawler with 60's and ARB air lockers in it (which was SWEEEET) a few years ago, but this thing is a BUDGET build and there's no way I'm gonna sink that kinda money into this one.
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Model: Cherokee
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You can run a lunchbox locker in the front differential and barely notice it except for tight turns. I never hear mine and you wouldn't know it was even in there if you were driving it. Obviously all this in 2wd. You know it's locked once you're in 4wd because it only wants to go straight. I honestly don't think lockout hubs are worth the cost for a D30.
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From: Oliver Springs, TN
Year: '92
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
You can run a lunchbox locker in the front differential and barely notice it except for tight turns. I never hear mine and you wouldn't know it was even in there if you were driving it. Obviously all this in 2wd. You know it's locked once you're in 4wd because it only wants to go straight. I honestly don't think lockout hubs are worth the cost for a D30.
Speaking of locking hubs.........
I know that would be an easy solution for running a locker in the front diff'. Does anyone make a cheap/easy conversion? I did some searching online and found the Yukon kit, but the cheapest I could find it was over $1300. That's just insane and it would be much cheaper to install a complete 44 out of another vehicle. I had a full blown crawler with 60's and ARB air lockers in it (which was SWEEEET) a few years ago, but this thing is a BUDGET build and there's no way I'm gonna sink that kinda money into this one.
I know that would be an easy solution for running a locker in the front diff'. Does anyone make a cheap/easy conversion? I did some searching online and found the Yukon kit, but the cheapest I could find it was over $1300. That's just insane and it would be much cheaper to install a complete 44 out of another vehicle. I had a full blown crawler with 60's and ARB air lockers in it (which was SWEEEET) a few years ago, but this thing is a BUDGET build and there's no way I'm gonna sink that kinda money into this one.

I did look at my Bronco knuckles to see if they could be swapped out to the XJ though. Doesn't look like it can be done, they are on top on one and under on the other.



