steering upgrades. 1-ton or currie
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steering upgrades. 1-ton or currie
So I'm looking at upgrading the steering and I wanna do it right the first time. This is my daily driver that will be seeing action every weekend.
It has 4.5 inch lift and will eventually be running 33's (currently running 31's)
My question is, should I go with a 1-ton steering kit made of Dom tubing or the currectlync system?
The 1ton system is about 290 + 200 for install and I've seen the curries run about 390-600 but I'd be able to install that myself
What are your guys opinions? Anyone have any pros or cons for either type of system?
Sorry if this has been covered. I did a search but only found people saying how much better the Currie is than stock but no comparison to 1-ton setups
It has 4.5 inch lift and will eventually be running 33's (currently running 31's)
My question is, should I go with a 1-ton steering kit made of Dom tubing or the currectlync system?
The 1ton system is about 290 + 200 for install and I've seen the curries run about 390-600 but I'd be able to install that myself
What are your guys opinions? Anyone have any pros or cons for either type of system?
Sorry if this has been covered. I did a search but only found people saying how much better the Currie is than stock but no comparison to 1-ton setups
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Currie steering is the best plug n pray kit out there.
Otherwise, I would go with crossover steering. Which will require an OTA track bar mount and a modded or different trackbar.
Otherwise, I would go with crossover steering. Which will require an OTA track bar mount and a modded or different trackbar.
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How much modification would be needed for crossover steering (I.e. relocating the track bar mounts)? Know of any good systems?
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http://www.seriousoffroadproducts.com/index.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=89965 this is the HD 1 ton set up Im doing overtime for at the moment lol the guy building/installing these is right up the street from me which is awesome
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^ I bought that setup, haven't installed it yet. I'll tell you, it 's truely HD! I went with the inserts. I've got a ton of issues with my steering & am replacing/ upgrading everything & this is the first step.
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Spend the extra money and go with the Currie setup or look at the WJ swap. There are better options out there than the 1 Ton/Inverted T steering configuration.
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looking to keep cost around 500 installed. (i cant weld nor do i have the tools to ream and do other needed mods for most steering systems so im going to have to pay for any non bolt in install)
would http://www.4wheelparts.com/Brakes-St...FbBj7AodJWEADA be the same/similar as the wj conversion? would this kit be pretty bolt on? sorry for all the questions im just trying to find as much as possible because i can wait if i have to but i want a solid system i wont have to replace unless i do something stupid lol
*edit* read the pdf instructions for the high steer kit, again requires cutting and welding so already being over my budget i dont know if thats somethings i can do financially
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why? for $480 that is the most expensive kit out there that simultaneously does nothing to change your steering angles. as far as bang for buck, probably the worst setup IMO
that will give you the same steering angles as the WJ setup. but at that cost you're better off actually doing a WJ. the problem still is that you would have to cut off your track bar mount and fabricate and over the axle panhard.
honestly, don't tell anyone I said this, but I think this kit will do the most for you for the best price and the least amount of work.
http://www.ironrockoffroad.com/Merch...&Category_Code=
it will raise the tie rod, give you "crossover", and you don't have to modify your track bar. as much as I'm not really a fan of IRO, I think this is your best option!
would http://www.4wheelparts.com/Brakes-St...FbBj7AodJWEADA be the same/similar as the wj conversion? would this kit be pretty bolt on? sorry for all the questions im just trying to find as much as possible because i can wait if i have to but i want a solid system i wont have to replace unless i do something stupid lol
honestly, don't tell anyone I said this, but I think this kit will do the most for you for the best price and the least amount of work.
http://www.ironrockoffroad.com/Merch...&Category_Code=
it will raise the tie rod, give you "crossover", and you don't have to modify your track bar. as much as I'm not really a fan of IRO, I think this is your best option!
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I am running the iro kit and really like it. Only requires drilling out the knuckles for install. No reaming. No welding. I was in the same boat as you. Looking for an upgrade but need something kinda bolt on. If you can weld, there may be better options. But for the price and the ease of install. The iro kit is a great option.
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why? for $480 that is the most expensive kit out there that simultaneously does nothing to change your steering angles. as far as bang for buck, probably the worst setup IMO
that will give you the same steering angles as the WJ setup. but at that cost you're better off actually doing a WJ. the problem still is that you would have to cut off your track bar mount and fabricate and over the axle panhard.
honestly, don't tell anyone I said this, but I think this kit will do the most for you for the best price and the least amount of work.
http://www.ironrockoffroad.com/Merch...&Category_Code=
it will raise the tie rod, give you "crossover", and you don't have to modify your track bar. as much as I'm not really a fan of IRO, I think this is your best option!
i was looking at that the other day before i stumbled upon serious just wasnt sure as to how much its actually upgrading things and if the tres would be strong enough
that will give you the same steering angles as the WJ setup. but at that cost you're better off actually doing a WJ. the problem still is that you would have to cut off your track bar mount and fabricate and over the axle panhard.
honestly, don't tell anyone I said this, but I think this kit will do the most for you for the best price and the least amount of work.
http://www.ironrockoffroad.com/Merch...&Category_Code=
it will raise the tie rod, give you "crossover", and you don't have to modify your track bar. as much as I'm not really a fan of IRO, I think this is your best option!
i was looking at that the other day before i stumbled upon serious just wasnt sure as to how much its actually upgrading things and if the tres would be strong enough
I am running the iro kit and really like it. Only requires drilling out the knuckles for install. No reaming. No welding. I was in the same boat as you. Looking for an upgrade but need something kinda bolt on. If you can weld, there may be better options. But for the price and the ease of install. The iro kit is a great option.
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No down side that I have noticed. It has been on about a year. All the joints are still tight and still drives great. I am running 35's and don't use a steering stabilizer. Drive it every day. It uses heim joints instead of tie rod ends. It is super beefy. My stock stuff was so bent up I couldn't get it to drive straight with an alignment anymore. Haven't had any problems since I installed the new kit. Install was about 2 hours with the alignment. Is you get it, just make sure you get the larger upgraded bolts.
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No down side that I have noticed. It has been on about a year. All the joints are still tight and still drives great. I am running 35's and don't use a steering stabilizer. Drive it every day. It uses heim joints instead of tie rod ends. It is super beefy. My stock stuff was so bent up I couldn't get it to drive straight with an alignment anymore. Haven't had any problems since I installed the new kit. Install was about 2 hours with the alignment. Is you get it, just make sure you get the larger upgraded bolts.
if i do go with iro kit, how hard is it to do ball joints by yourself? i recently bought some alloy usa joints along with sway bar bushings. got the bushings on and steering tightened up alot but was going to just have serious throw on the ball joints as he did the steering upgrade. id love to do it myself if its not too labor intensive since it would have to be done in a day since its my dd
*edit* also, ive heard that heim joints are not good for use on vehicles that see mostly on road use because they wear out faster. is this true?
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that wouldnt even have been a question since the upgraded bolts are only 20 bucks more lol gah thought this would help decide but now i have 3 choices xD leaning more towards iro or serious though. i like the currectlync but the fact that the parts are so specialized puts it more out of my budget for my family fun vehicle
if i do go with iro kit, how hard is it to do ball joints by yourself? i recently bought some alloy usa joints along with sway bar bushings. got the bushings on and steering tightened up alot but was going to just have serious throw on the ball joints as he did the steering upgrade. id love to do it myself if its not too labor intensive since it would have to be done in a day since its my dd
*edit* also, ive heard that heim joints are not good for use on vehicles that see mostly on road use because they wear out faster. is this true?
if i do go with iro kit, how hard is it to do ball joints by yourself? i recently bought some alloy usa joints along with sway bar bushings. got the bushings on and steering tightened up alot but was going to just have serious throw on the ball joints as he did the steering upgrade. id love to do it myself if its not too labor intensive since it would have to be done in a day since its my dd
*edit* also, ive heard that heim joints are not good for use on vehicles that see mostly on road use because they wear out faster. is this true?
Not true. Heim joints are great. I'd prefer them over some fast wearing bindable TRE's any day
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Ignore the currie kit. I don't know why anyone would pay for that. And the seriousoffroad kit will probably require you to cut and reweld your track bar. Go with IRO. Ball joints suck. I hate doing them but some people have the magic touch. I had to pay 4wp $50 under the table to do mine. But you can try your luck and rent a ball joint press from autozone. Why are you having someone install your steering? You can do that yourself for sure if you can figure out the ball joints.
Not true. Heim joints are great. I'd prefer them over some fast wearing bindable TRE's any day
Not true. Heim joints are great. I'd prefer them over some fast wearing bindable TRE's any day
the only reason i was going to have serious put it on was because he was going to do all the reaming and welding required
the only reason i ask about the heims is because i see that they are illegal to run on the road in some states, figured there had to be a reason behind that lol cant have my steering fail while on the highway with my kids in the back
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