Small Lift Questions

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Nov 2, 2018 | 10:20 AM
  #1  
Hello everyone.

Forgive the noob questions, kinda new to XJ's. Working on planning out my lift "kit". I have a 92 2WD 2 door. I'm not looking for a large lift, since this will not be spending much time off road. I am hoping to replace the coils and leafs, since the originals are still on the truck. What I am thinking is this"

Rear- Rancho 1.5" lift springs & Rancho RS5000x shocks
Front- Moog CC782 coils (I believe these are the ZJ upcounty springs, for like 1-1.5" of lift) and RS5000x shocks.

My eventual tire size will most likely be 235/75R15, possibly 30x9.50 at the largest, with maybe some Cragar Nomad 15x7's so I can get the wheels a little further out.

How does this combo sound? I am open to suggestions or ideas.
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Nov 2, 2018 | 11:37 AM
  #2  
sounds like a good solid plan
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Nov 2, 2018 | 09:03 PM
  #3  
Do you have any plans to change to 4X4 in the future? The plan you have sounds like a great start and see if that gets to where you want to be!
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Nov 3, 2018 | 02:09 AM
  #4  
I would personally just go with everything listed here:

UPCOUNTRY OPTION
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If you would like to duplicate the factory Upcountry option in its more important parts (i.e., the suspension) in your Cherokee XJ 1991-1996 (and probably earlier and later years), you can purchase everything here at Amazon. You will need the following:

Moog CC782 coil springs (sold by the pair) - .Moog CC782 Variable Rate Coil Spring
Crown 4886186AA leaf springs (sold each, so order two) - . Crown Automotive 4886186AA Leaf Spring Assembly; For Use w/LT/ZGW/ZVW; Heavy Duty; 4 Leaf;
Zone 2100J 0.75 inch spacers (the Crowns have a little too much lift: these restore the correct front-to-rear ratio) - . Zone Offroad Coil Spring Spacers 3/4" (pair)
Monroe Sensa Trac 37083 front shocks (adequate and a good value, order two) - . Monroe 37083 Sensa-Trac Light Truck Shock Absorber
Monroe Sensa Trac 37027 rear shocks (as above, order two) - . Monroe 37027 Sensa-Trac Light Truck Shock Absorber
Energy Suspension 22109B rear polyurethane bushings (easier to install, GREASE POLY's THOROUGHLY!!!) - . Rear Leaf Spring Bushing Set Black 1984-2001 Jeep Cherokee XJ # 22109G



Great price, Good Quality, And a factory look.

I have personally been impressed with moog, crown, and monroe products.

I still don't hear many praises about rancho springs / shocks. Maybe someone else has some input on the build & ride quality.

Keep us posted!
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Nov 4, 2018 | 12:59 AM
  #5  
Quote: I would personally just go with everything listed here:

UPCOUNTRY OPTION
---------
If you would like to duplicate the factory Upcountry option in its more important parts (i.e., the suspension) in your Cherokee XJ 1991-1996 (and probably earlier and later years), you can purchase everything here at Amazon. You will need the following:

Moog CC782 coil springs (sold by the pair) - .Moog CC782 Variable Rate Coil Spring
Crown 4886186AA leaf springs (sold each, so order two) - . Crown Automotive 4886186AA Leaf Spring Assembly; For Use w/LT/ZGW/ZVW; Heavy Duty; 4 Leaf;
Zone 2100J 0.75 inch spacers (the Crowns have a little too much lift: these restore the correct front-to-rear ratio) - . Zone Offroad Coil Spring Spacers 3/4" (pair)
Monroe Sensa Trac 37083 front shocks (adequate and a good value, order two) - . Monroe 37083 Sensa-Trac Light Truck Shock Absorber
Monroe Sensa Trac 37027 rear shocks (as above, order two) - . Monroe 37027 Sensa-Trac Light Truck Shock Absorber
Energy Suspension 22109B rear polyurethane bushings (easier to install, GREASE POLY's THOROUGHLY!!!) - . Rear Leaf Spring Bushing Set Black 1984-2001 Jeep Cherokee XJ # 22109G



Great price, Good Quality, And a factory look.

I have personally been impressed with moog, crown, and monroe products.

I still don't hear many praises about rancho springs / shocks. Maybe someone else has some input on the build & ride quality.

Keep us posted!
how much would that setup set you back?
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Nov 4, 2018 | 01:19 PM
  #6  
A few quick searches - These are current with shipping included.

Moog CC782 Coil Spring Set - Used / $41.10 - Amazon
Crown Automotive 4886186AA Leaf Spring - New / $75.46 - Ebay
Crown Automotive 4886186AA Leaf Spring - New / $75.46 - Ebay
3/4" (.75) Front Coil Spacers - New / $30.00 - Ebay
Monroe Sensa-Trac 37027 37083 Shock Absorber Kit Set - New / Ebay - $154.82
Energy Suspension 2.2109G - New / Amazon - $54.99

Total: $431.83
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Nov 4, 2018 | 01:39 PM
  #7  
I went the UpCountry route on 2 XJs now and really like it. I didn't bother with the Zone 3/4" spacers though it gives the Jeep kind of an *** high stance but not enough to be really noticeable and if you're loaded down for camping or wheeling or do any towing it will level out pretty quick.
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Nov 4, 2018 | 04:25 PM
  #8  
Quote: How does this combo sound? I am open to suggestions or ideas.
Any modification to the suspension will magnify its current faults and to remain safe you'll have to budget for and replace any and all worn components as well.

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Nov 4, 2018 | 06:56 PM
  #9  
RockinRonnie- I’ve thought about converting it, but it is a lot of work. I will keep it as a reliable driver and use my Ford Ranger when I need 4x4.

Craigjacob1- I’ve used Moog parts since I have been buying parts, problems are almost non-existent. I was thinking about the Crown leafs but wasn’t too sure. The only reason I was tempted to go for Rancho’s is because I have the RS5000X shocks on my Ranger, and they are pretty darn good. Maybe not as good as Bilstein, but for the price they can’t be beat. Thanks for pulling together those prices.

Generally speaking, I really wont be towing with the truck. It’s mainly going to be an on-road driver that may see some gravel/dirt roads to get to the fishing spot. I just figured if I am going to replace shocks and springs, I might as well get just a little more height. I have not had the chance to check over the front end yet, but the truck was really well cared for and only has 78000 miles.
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Nov 7, 2018 | 08:38 PM
  #10  
Rancho springs are red and they look cool!!
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Nov 22, 2018 | 11:06 AM
  #11  
Quote: I would personally just go with everything listed here:

UPCOUNTRY OPTION
---------
If you would like to duplicate the factory Upcountry option in its more important parts (i.e., the suspension) in your Cherokee XJ 1991-1996 (and probably earlier and later years), you can purchase everything here at Amazon. You will need the following:

Moog CC782 coil springs (sold by the pair) - .Moog CC782 Variable Rate Coil Spring
Crown 4886186AA leaf springs (sold each, so order two) - . Crown Automotive 4886186AA Leaf Spring Assembly; For Use w/LT/ZGW/ZVW; Heavy Duty; 4 Leaf;
Zone 2100J 0.75 inch spacers (the Crowns have a little too much lift: these restore the correct front-to-rear ratio) - . Zone Offroad Coil Spring Spacers 3/4" (pair)
Monroe Sensa Trac 37083 front shocks (adequate and a good value, order two) - . Monroe 37083 Sensa-Trac Light Truck Shock Absorber
Monroe Sensa Trac 37027 rear shocks (as above, order two) - . Monroe 37027 Sensa-Trac Light Truck Shock Absorber
Energy Suspension 22109B rear polyurethane bushings (easier to install, GREASE POLY's THOROUGHLY!!!) - . Rear Leaf Spring Bushing Set Black 1984-2001 Jeep Cherokee XJ # 22109G


I still don't hear many praises about rancho springs / shocks. Maybe someone else has some input on the build & ride quality.

Keep us posted!
AHA!---FINALLY FOUND THIS LIST!
I'm really not advanced enough, so I have a few questions:
I am hopeful, but don't know how to check....would this setup work on a '98, does anyone know?
And with this setup, could I run 31" by 10.5" tires, and get full flex/use out of my suspension?
Is a transfer case drop, or anything else to do with driveline angles, needed with this list/lift?

I'd probably add a few things (steering stabilizer, sway bar, etc, from other lists some of you graciously provided me in another thread, but this I can order in pieces and not screw up.

I think this would get me the lift/clearance I want, without breaking the bank on parts, and I'd know nothing that should be altered/tended to when doing the lift, was.

Thanks again for all the help!
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Nov 22, 2018 | 01:24 PM
  #12  
Quote: AHA!---FINALLY FOUND THIS LIST!
I'm really not advanced enough, so I have a few questions:
I am hopeful, but don't know how to check....would this setup work on a '98, does anyone know?
And with this setup, could I run 31" by 10.5" tires, and get full flex/use out of my suspension?
Is a transfer case drop, or anything else to do with driveline angles, needed with this list/lift?

I'd probably add a few things (steering stabilizer, sway bar, etc, from other lists some of you graciously provided me in another thread, but this I can order in pieces and not screw up.

I think this would get me the lift/clearance I want, without breaking the bank on parts, and I'd know nothing that should be altered/tended to when doing the lift, was.
Thanks again for all the help!

Yes, it will work on a 98.
31" tires will fit, but will likely rub when offroad. You will probably have to clearance your front inner fender well a bit. You should be able to keep your factory flares though.
You could lengthen the front swaybar links to compensate for the 2" gain, but it is not necessary.
The rear swaybar will have to come out, but that will be fine. They eleminated it on the factory upcountry lift.

A hockey puck inside the front coil should work perfect for spacing the front bumpstop.
Extended front bumpstops are another option. Most are extended 2". That might work well for you with 31" tires, but you will lose 1" of travel unless you trim them down and clearance for the tire.

Otherwise that is it. No transfer case drop or SYE reqiured.
The simplicity is what makes me highly recommend this setup to other forum members.
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Nov 23, 2018 | 07:42 AM
  #13  
Quote: Yes, it will work on a 98.
31" tires will fit, but will likely rub when offroad. You will probably have to clearance your front inner fender well a bit. You should be able to keep your factory flares though.
You could lengthen the front swaybar links to compensate for the 2" gain, but it is not necessary.
The rear swaybar will have to come out, but that will be fine. They eleminated it on the factory upcountry lift.

A hockey puck inside the front coil should work perfect for spacing the front bumpstop.
Extended front bumpstops are another option. Most are extended 2". That might work well for you with 31" tires, but you will lose 1" of travel unless you trim them down and clearance for the tire.

Otherwise that is it. No transfer case drop or SYE reqiured.
The simplicity is what makes me highly recommend this setup to other forum members.
That is most excellent to hear; just the kind of info I've been looking for----MANY THANKS!
Few things, though----First, What does SYE stand for? It's been driving me nuts!----I think I usta know 20+ yrs ago, when I was into this stuff a lot more (mostly reading, lol), and I see it all over this forum---but I just can't place what those letters stand foe! And I think I should know, lol, that's all.

As to trimming the inner fenders on the front, lengthening the front swaybar links, could you, or anyone, recommend a good set? I'd probably do it just because. I think/hope my mechanic will be up to the trimming, and removing the rear swaybar is no problem. We will see. FWIW---will removing the rear swaybar affect driveability? Could I use something in place of factory, if it did? And if I did not/could not trim---would a slightly smaller tire eliminate rubbing? I am fine with running a narrower tire, in fact, if anyone has any recommendations, I'd like to hear them.

On front coil spacers and bumpstops: I'm not a "hockey puck" kinda guy (once saw a guy use pvc pipe---I know, not the same thing, but still---for a body lift on a F150---worked fine, for a bit, till that bed slid right off the frame doing some light wheeling. Ever since, I'm hesitant coming up with my own parts some things. Hope you get my meaning; don't want to offend. What I'm driving at, here, is: could you just buy those spacers; does anyone have any recommendations? I'm assuming that the spacers you are saying I need are like something I've seen in small lift kits, for the front, but am unsure...
As to the extended bumpstops, I (sort of) get what you are saying; get the 2 inch, and I would/will....but would you even have to trim those? Or is getting something that "fits" possible? I ask because I'm not gonna be installing these parts, and I need to be sure to explain things right when I bring them in....I've seen the work my mechanic has done, but I don't know if he's ever lifted anything with a pieced together kit. I'm really hoping once it's done, there's no rubbing...or trouble. Hope you all understand where I am coming from, and what I'm getting at, here.

I want to thank everyone here, once again! Once I get a few things cleared up for m'self with this, this is the route I'm going to take, and hope to start ordering some parts. Maybe even in the next few days. It may be awhile before it gets done/installed (other fixes, etc, to do, and get parts for 1st; gonna get built all at the same time; probably next spring)---but I sure feel I am on the right track, now. Thanks everybody!
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