I installed this kit recently and was wondering, am I going to need a longer drag link with this lift? It looks to have lifted a heck of a lot further than 3.5... maybe my stock suspension was just that worn out..
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RE's lifts generally give more than advertised. I have to same size lift Super-Ride (not installed yet though Originally Posted by 98Redbird
I installed this kit recently and was wondering, am I going to need a longer drag link with this lift? It looks to have lifted a heck of a lot further than 3.5... maybe my stock suspension was just that worn out..
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Is your stock drag link not adjustable? Maybe need a dropped pitman arm?Originally Posted by 98Redbird
I installed this kit recently and was wondering, am I going to need a longer drag link with this lift? It looks to have lifted a heck of a lot further than 3.5... maybe my stock suspension was just that worn out..
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I have had the Super Ride 3.5 on mine for almost two years now. You won't need a drag link, but you should either relocate the axle end hole for the trackbar or get an adjustable trackbar. Otherwise, your steering should be all set, assuming your kit came with their steering stabilizer.
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Are you saying that for their kit to work properly you have to run "Their Steering Stabilizer" if so then there is something wrong with the kit. As all they do is cover up other problems in the steering.Originally Posted by aj2494
I have had the Super Ride 3.5 on mine for almost two years now. You won't need a drag link, but you should either relocate the axle end hole for the trackbar or get an adjustable trackbar. Otherwise, your steering should be all set, assuming your kit came with their steering stabilizer.
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Not that it's required, but it helps make sure there are fewer issues. It may only "mask" issues, but not every system is going to be perfect and a steering stabilizer will really help reduce vibes. I don't think anyone will argue that.
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The steering stabilizer has nothing to do with "vibes" its just a bandaid for bump steer and death wobble. Saying not every suspension is perfect is saying its okay to drive with an improper lift that is dangerous because its cheaper.Originally Posted by aj2494
Not that it's required, but it helps make sure there are fewer issues. It may only "mask" issues, but not every system is going to be perfect and a steering stabilizer will really help reduce vibes. I don't think anyone will argue that.
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It's a pretty well accepted fact that any steering system, even brilliantly engineered factory systems, will have vibrations due to natural resonant frequencies and a steering stabilizer will help absorb those vibrations. Their intended purpose is to dampen vibes, which is why a stabilizer is also called a steering damper. Will a stabilizer hurt anything? No. Will it help reduce completely unavoidable vibrations while maybe masking some issues? Yes. But this isn't a monster lift we're talking about here, and chances are it only needs an alignment after it's done. You're taking this way away from the topic at hand. How did we get from using a steering stabilizer to help reduce vibes to using an improper lift? If anyone would like to make an argument that the RE 3.5" lift is unsafe or that it requires a new drag link, be my guest.Originally Posted by toasterknight
The steering stabilizer has nothing to do with "vibes" its just a bandaid for bump steer and death wobble. Saying not every suspension is perfect is saying its okay to drive with an improper lift that is dangerous because its cheaper.
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There should be no vibration in the steering if there is you have something wrong with your jeep. Either the links aren't stiff enough or a joint is loose. There is no such thing as an unavoidable vibration. Proper geometry, materials, material thickness, and joint strength will fix any suspension issues.
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Yup. I'm still waiting to hear from the OP to see if he really needs a drag link or if he meant a track bar.Originally Posted by sycoglitch
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I was wondering the same thing, but he shouldn't need either.Originally Posted by jay_sco
Yup. I'm still waiting to hear from the OP to see if he really needs a drag link or if he meant a track bar.
Toaster - I challenge you to find an XJ or any car for that matter, that has zero vibrations in the front end. It's literally almost impossible to get rid of all vibes, even on a system for a brand new car. Every material has a natural resonant frequency. I'm not talking about huge vibrations here that make the XJ difficult to control, but the annoying stuff. I seriously doubt a properly installed RE 3.5" lift would create the kind of vibrations that you're talking about.
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Toaster - I challenge you to find an XJ or any car for that matter, that has zero vibrations in the front end. It's literally almost impossible to get rid of all vibes, even on a system for a brand new car. Every material has a natural resonant frequency. I'm not talking about huge vibrations here that make the XJ difficult to control, but the annoying stuff. I seriously doubt a properly installed RE 3.5" lift would create the kind of vibrations that you're talking about.
I'm not saying there are no vibrations at all but those vibrations are small enough the stabilizer would do nothing and you wouldn't notice them. If the stabilizer dealt with them all vehicles would have them installed.Originally Posted by aj2494
I was wondering the same thing, but he shouldn't need either.Toaster - I challenge you to find an XJ or any car for that matter, that has zero vibrations in the front end. It's literally almost impossible to get rid of all vibes, even on a system for a brand new car. Every material has a natural resonant frequency. I'm not talking about huge vibrations here that make the XJ difficult to control, but the annoying stuff. I seriously doubt a properly installed RE 3.5" lift would create the kind of vibrations that you're talking about.
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All I'm trying to say is there's a reason we all run stabilizers. Of course there are people who choose not to or don't need them at all, but they help the rest of us. I 100% agree that vibes are bad and usually indicate a problem, but a vibe doesn't always indicate a rapidly approaching catastrophic failure. A lot of people have driveline vibes that don't mean their XJ is falling apart. Yeah vibes might create a little unnecessary wear over a long time, but they may not be worth chasing down and correcting if a simple steering stabilizer will help fix the issues.Originally Posted by toasterknight
I'm not saying there are no vibrations at all but those vibrations are small enough the stabilizer would do nothing and you wouldn't notice them. If the stabilizer dealt with them all vehicles would have them installed.
But we're getting way off topic here. The only reason I initially asked if the OP had a steering stabilizer was to cover all the bases of steering components that are deemed necessary/optional but helpful for that lift height. It doesn't even sound like the OP has driven it yet, but is just finishing up the lift install and questioning some angles.
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But we're getting way off topic here. The only reason I initially asked if the OP had a steering stabilizer was to cover all the bases of steering components that are deemed necessary/optional but helpful for that lift height. It doesn't even sound like the OP has driven it yet, but is just finishing up the lift install and questioning some angles.
Makes sense. I have to argue my point though or someone after you is going to end up quoting this as if stabilizers fix all problems. Hope OP vet his lift working.Originally Posted by aj2494
All I'm trying to say is there's a reason we all run stabilizers. Of course there are people who choose not to or don't need them at all, but they help the rest of us. I 100% agree that vibes are bad and usually indicate a problem, but a vibe doesn't always indicate a rapidly approaching catastrophic failure. A lot of people have driveline vibes that don't mean their XJ is falling apart. Yeah vibes might create a little unnecessary wear over a long time, but they may not be worth chasing down and correcting if a simple steering stabilizer will help fix the issues.But we're getting way off topic here. The only reason I initially asked if the OP had a steering stabilizer was to cover all the bases of steering components that are deemed necessary/optional but helpful for that lift height. It doesn't even sound like the OP has driven it yet, but is just finishing up the lift install and questioning some angles.